Hello,

One can show his palm or numerology or resort to horary/prashna for getting reply from particular questions.

Again if the apprx time is known one can resort to correcting the birth time.

RishiRahul

correcting the birth time, ...

The ruler of a chart is something that's still debated.  If you ask a group of astrologers how to find the ruler of any chart, you're going to get one of three different answers (maybe more, but these three are definitely more popular).

The first one you'd get is the one listed above, the ruling planet of the Sign Ascending.

The second you'd get is the planet that performs the most aspects.  The mentality behind this one is since this planet connects and spreads itself more over the chart by planet-planet relationships, it must rule the chart.

The third (the one I prefer) is finding the Lord of Genture in a chart.  The Lord of Genture is the planet with the most essential and accidental dignity, so the planet that has the most power behind it.

Rishi and Hemal,

Since conjunctions are being discussed, vedic astrologers should also cock their ears! Because those would apply to the vedic chart too (unless close to a sidereal sandhi-cusp). Afterall the sun or saturn (traditional planets at least!) do not change their hats when *speaking* to western or eastern astrologers :-)

Does that make sense? If tropical and sidereal astrologies and astrologers must work together we must begin in places where there are closer commonalities (where ayanamsha can be avoided!) such as in the case of conjunctions and some trines and other special aspects for certain planets (sextile, square, quincunx) even if we do not want to go into partial aspects which makes the common points even more in number.

The intention to work together or at least a healthy curiosity is there in both camps as I notice because we see individuals firmly footed in one or the other system often visit the other camp. This is healthy and must be encouraged. There are very few forums where such a diversity of paths exists within the same large tent! Reminds me of good old days...!

Rohiniranjan


[quote="hemal_bhach"][quote="RishiRahul"][quote="hemal_bhach"][quote="yerbatera"][color=green]MM Swetha!

[quote]Saturn  - This one is bad. The tighter the conjunction, the more malefic the influence. Pessimism, hard luck, hard life, overly serious. Other aspects need to be taken into consideration. [/quote]

I differ from the statement, because saturn in the first house, without any conjunct, have always produced great individuals and successful ones. any other malefic grah conjunct or giving drishti is a different thing....Please elaborate your arguement..Only saturn, I ahev never found to be malefic, anywhere.

Could you please explain which other planet this would be in conjunction with (the natal Sun?)?  I'm a Sun in Sag, Cappy rising, Scorpio moon (and my Jupiter is retro).  All the 12th House Sun stuff is dead on!

Thanks in advance!

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Hemal,
I think it is obvious that the present thread deals with Western astrology(sayan charts).

Your view is regarding Vedic astrology.

RishiRahul[/quote]

OK SIR,

ACCEPTED

Hemal[/quote]