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Understanding GOD
prabakaran_cad


Age: 32
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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem Science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new students to stand and.....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
 

Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God.. .

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?  
Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
 
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
 
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
 
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
 
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
 
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
 
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
 
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
 
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
 
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
 
Prof: Yes.
 
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
 
Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
 
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat,

But we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.

Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
 
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
 
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
 
Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't.

If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
 
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
 
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
 
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
 
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.

Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
 
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.

With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
 
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
 
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH.
 
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.......
Omnicron Solaris


Age: 42
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Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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And that is a really good post!
It seems as though there has been a dramatic rise in the number of atheists in the world recently.
They seem to like to bandy about terms like "no one has ever made a scientific measurement of the god the force " or something like "you believe in something that has no logical foundation.

Therefore God must not exist!
I cannot count the number of things in this world that defy logic and defy measurement.
Recently, on another message board (with more atheists than you can shake a stick at) I put forward the idea that most people can't even give an adequate definition of who "you" are.
If we want an EEG or PET scan or an MRI we can see the brain at work.  In some scientists say "there we have it!  Proof that we are thinking! I tell the subjects to think of his mother and we can see the blood flood into this particular area of the brain." I say that nowhere in this experiment we see where the self lies.
Where is the seat of the self? If we cannot even adequately identify within ourselves what this "me myself and I"  thing! So why in the world are we trying to define what God is when we can't even define what we are?
I like to call it a scientific arrogance.
I think it's just another human growing pain in the hope that is what it is.
prabakaran_cad


Age: 32
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Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 149

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Dear Omnicron Solaris,

Thanks for sharing you views..

You are correct athiest population is increasing. And people are asking proof for every thing.

The spritulity starts where the science end..

Recently in USA Brain specialist done research of meditation on Swami Nithyannada swamigal and published the results.

I will provide more info on this
CuriousK


Age: 31
Zodiac:
Cancer



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Posts: 43

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Evolution can be observed.
tweety121


Age: 24
Zodiac:
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Joined: 13 Jul 2008
Posts: 26

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evolution can be observed, but not in all the species.... so while it can be said to be applicable to certain species, it cannot be generalized to all species..
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