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Hi Vishwas
Paulette


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What follows is only what I believe. I cannot speak for any other members here. I find it amusing that this thread was moved to "occult" because in my experience there isn't anything "occult" about it; it's science.

So to first answer your question, it depends on what your definition of 'necromancy' is. Because 'mediumship' or communication with those who are no longer on the earth-plane is not "magick" which is I believe part of what defines 'necromancy'.  In my opinion, the answer would be, "no". Communication with the spirit world is not magick; it is science.

Second, the reason for a desire to contact such energies could be for various reasons. Comfort for friends & family who are still earth-bound. Seeking guidance for challenging situations. Prophecy; although we have free will these spirits can often *see/feel* what is coming into our future. But we make the final decision to permit or allow it into being. Nothing is written in stone.

I have been a student of metaphysics for 7 years & have NEVER heard of anyone ever causing "trouble" when contacting 'spirit'. There isn't anything 'evil' about this activity. The other thing is there is NO death. Our "dearly departed" friends, ancestors, ascended masters. avatars, angels, gurus - what have you - have simply transitioned to another level; a higher vibration than earth.

This is from the homepage of the metaphysical church I belong to & it explains communing with spirits...........

What is Divine Metaphysics?
Divine Metaphysics is a Science, Philosophy and Religion which accepts the existence of an infinite intelligence. It practices and teaches the spiritual truths recorded in the Holy Bible and other Sacred Scriptures, and as
revealed in the life and teaching of Jesus the Christ and other Holy Avatars of God.

Paramount among the spiritual truths is the fact that life is continuous.The change called death is merely a rebirth into a world of higher vibration. This truth is proven through communication, by means of mental and physical mediumship, with loved ones and teachers who live in the spirit world.

Other truths are contained in the Declaration of Principles as accepted by the United Metaphysical Churches and can be found under the section, “This we believe.” One of the truths of Divine Metaphysics is to teach these truths pertaining to man's spiritual and physical welfare. However, the practice and promulgation of these truths do not make Divine Metaphysics a creed because each individual is encouraged to worship God according to the dictates of his or her own conscience.

Some of what Divine Metaphysics teaches and does are contained in the following points:

*Individuals are morally responsible for themselves.
*Man is a threefold being - body, soul and spirit.
*Man is just as much spirit now as he ever will be, except that he is encased in a physical body.
*We reap as we sow and, life being continuous, we carry into the next world all positive and negative actions taken on the earth plane.
*An understanding of God's Natural Universal Laws teaches an individual how to love, here and hereafter.
*All men are brothers and God is their Father. Therefore, all men are divine because they have the spark of God within them. They all have potentialities of God if they choose to develop them.
*Heaven and hell are states of mental consciousness and not literal abodes.

Declaration of Principles
1. We believe in Infinite Intelligence.
2. We believe that the phenomena of Nature, both physical and spiritual, are the expression of Infinite Intelligence.
3. We affirm that a correct understanding of such expression and living in accordance therewith, constitute true religion.
4. We affirm that the existence and personal identity of the individual continue after the change called death.
5. We affirm that communication with the so-called dead is a fact, scientifically proven by the phenomena of Divine Metaphysics.
6. We believe that the highest morality is contained in the Golden Rule: “Whatsoever ye would that others should do unto you, do ye also unto them.”
7. We affirm the moral responsibility of the individual, and that he makes his own happiness or unhappiness as he obeys or disobeys Nature's physical and spiritual laws.
8. We affirm that the doorway to reformation is never closed against any human soul here or hereafter.
9. We affirm that the precepts of Prophecy and Healing are Divine attributes proven through Mediumship.


Definitions
The following definitions are presented to help you understand some of the terms used in Divine Metaphysics.
Divine Metaphysics is a Science, Philosophy and Religion based on the fact that life is continuous and that the phenomena of Nature is the expression of Infinite Intelligence. These facts are demonstrated through communication by means of mediumship, with those who live in the spirit world.
Divine Metaphysics found in the Bible
Genesis 15: 12 - Abraham goes into a trance
Genesis 16: 7-11 - The angel of the Lord appears to Hagar in the wilderness and comforts her.
Exodus 3: 2-10 - An angel speaks to Moses out of the burning bush.
1 Samuel 9: 10-20 - Samuel is consulted by Saul as a seer.
1 Samuel 28: 6-20 - Saul consults a medium and asks to talk to the spirit of Samuel.
Matthew 17: 3-5 - The Apostles hear the voices of Moses and Elias on the mount.
Mark 16: 18 - They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.
John 2: 1-11 - Making wine from water at the marriage feast.
Acts 3: 1-8 - Peter cures the lame man.
Acts 9: 4-7 - And the man which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice but seeing no man.
Romans 8: 26 - Paul has a clear understanding of spiritual agencies.

A Divine Metaphysician is one who believes, as the basis of his or her own religion, in communication between this and the spirit world. In addition, he or she endeavors to mold his or her character and conduct in accordance with the higher teachings derived from such communion.

A Medium is a person whose organism is sensitive to vibrations from the spirit world. It is through this
instrumentality that intelligences in the spirit world are able to convey messages and produce the psychic phenomena of Divine Metaphysics.

A Spiritual Healer is a person who is able to impart vital curative force to pathological conditions through his or her own inherent power or through his or her mediumship.

Psychic Phenomena are the subjective experience of vibrations and/or communications manifest from intelligences in the world of spirit. The types of phenomena on which Divine Metaphysics is based
include Mental and Physical phenomena.

Mental Phenomena use mental energy to produce forms of mediumship such as Clairvoyance, Psychometry, Gift of Tongues, and Inspirational and Trance Speaking. Physical Phenomena use physical energy to produce forms of mediumship such as Trumpet, Direct Voice, Rappings, Telekinesis, Independent Writings and Drawing, Levitation, Transfiguration and Materialization which includes Etherialization, Precipitation, Apport, Skotography and Spirit Photography.

Psychic refers to anything pertaining to the human soul or mind especially super or extrasensory functions.
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Paulette you are full of information... Many questions regarding other things were just answered in your one post.

I have lots more questions too.. gesh Ill drive ya all nuts am sure!


Occult is in this day and age ..seems to be almost a dirty word... if its  not the NORM is OCCULT!
and the OCCULT supposibly do horible things .bla bla bla!! you know what Im saying right?

Spirit talk mentioned some things that made me question alot of other things.. the age of the people ect she mentions

the child that died at birth ??? ..."I get a girl that passed as a baby...either just born or very young...only days or weeks old.  I get a sense of a sibling...sister to you.  She has lived your experiences with you and enjoys that you feel childlike when her energy is around"
I had a complete bone scan done there is an extra bone in my neck... the Specialist said that could be .. I was just born with it ..or I was a twin at the twin didnt make it and fused another bone into my neck....?? Could this be the same child? Since s he lived my experiences with me.. thats the only one I know of.

There is a man who was a smoker...one after another....there was a cloud around his head all the time.  His heart was the problem in the end.   I feel father's side of the house...an uncle?
I was not close to my fathers side of the family.  I have a God Father whos father was like a grandfather ..Vence - he would smoke awfullly and as a kid I would poke holes in his cigarettes.  He also wouldl take me out to eat on Saturdays ...lol in a bar! lots of smoke there.
My Grandfather on my moms side.. I use to swear he was alive when I was a child .. My grandmother packed us up and moved out of his home! I can still see him rocking in an old Green rocking Chair... that my Grandmother had removed after his death.  He died in 1967 and I was born in 1969.  I dont know if he smoked ... Grannie didnt talk negatively about him he was her husband.  both men had heart failure.

There is a woman who passed mid life....definitely not old when she passed.  She has a bright light.  She was almost too spiritual for the life she lived...hard but she remained at peace through it all.  There is a sense of a rather abusive relationship around her (husband?) but she rose above all issues.  You couldn't understand how she could be so at peace...you kind of thought of her as a doormat...when, in reality, she did not accept anything from anyone....quiet, inner, strength.  She is at a grandmother's level in your family.
This is the one I am most curious about.  And the REason I posted my post on the topic.  My grandmother looked young ..people often said she looked 50-60 she died at 83.. gosh I hope I look 50 at 80 lol.  She seen hard time and lived through the depression.. She talked of people comitting suicide in her family . Her father died when she was a baby.  She was very strong willed and didnt loose her head ...very often .. I dont recall seeing her cry much.. unless an animal was involved.  My mom walked all over her always buming off her.  My grandfather and her faught all the time (I Have been told)... he had an affair with another woman who has a son.. and my grannie found out about this.  My grannie was a strong headed roman catholic and when my grandfather confessed up and became catholic as well.........the family said it was like a couple of love birds  they fell in love all over.  

My Grandmother raised me and we were very close.  I have some guilted feelings about her death... and I would like to know more about if this is her and if you can contact her for me.
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skepticreport.com/psychics/jvplkl.htm the best way to describe talking with de dead is this one.........
Paulette


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Dj I.C.U. wrote:
http://www.skepticreport.com/psychics/jvplkl.htm the best way to describe talking with de dead is this one.........
I wish ther ewere someone on here that can comunicate with those who have passed.
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