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DEMONIAC SPIRITS-ARE THEY REAL?
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IS DEMONIAC SPIRITS REAL? DO THEY IMITATE LOVED ONE'S THAT HAVE PASSED? ARE WE PROTECTED IF WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO THE SPIRIT WORLD? DID THEY ORIGINALLY HAVE A BODY OF FLESH?  
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lighting strikes twice wrote:
IS DEMONIAC SPIRITS REAL?

J:  Depending on the fears placed with individuals, demons are a construct of church authorities.  They were used as a means of control of the populace.  The question, to my mind, would be more valid to say are there uneducated (up to no good, maybe even evil,) spirits?  And then I would have to say an unequivical yes.

DO THEY IMITATE LOVED ONE'S THAT HAVE PASSED?

J:  The uneducated spirits in the lower realms of spirit existence live by an animal nature and in an atmosphere of fog.  When some uneducated mediums attune to this level, they are opening themselves to the pretenders.  They pretend so that they can be acknowledged in their plight.  Sometimes it is not because of evil, but just out of fears of their own.

ARE WE PROTECTED IF WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO THE SPIRIT WORLD?

J:  One of the things we do is make sure we are protected.  One of the ways to do this is to know who we are working with through energies of love rather than control or other motives.  The unseen can not affect us if we do not allow their agenda to be served.

DID THEY ORIGINALLY HAVE A BODY OF FLESH?  


J:  The spirit realms, as we know them, are a continuity of earth living.  There are no 'other species' as in some one who has not lived an earth life available in our connection to spirit realms.  Having walked this way before gives them some insight into our own challenges and some answers they have gleaned through experience.  That is why the guide we allow is so important.



PS Interesting questions.[/i]
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This is an interesting topic. There are some things in Spirtalks response I disagreed with, but there were also some I wanted to add to. I suppose what one takes away from this depends on each person's experience.


IS DEMONIAC SPIRITS REAL?

To me demons are fallen angels, or just the opposite side of the spectrum with regards to angels. I do not believe they are just evil spirits as Spiritalk alluded, though that's entirely possible. If that is true, then maybe this is more a case of terminologies.



DO THEY IMITATE LOVED ONE'S THAT HAVE PASSED?

I have not experienced that. What I have experienced was a demon or evil spirit imitating quite a few other things including a shepard holding a staff and the Virgin Mary. I grew up Catholic, and I believe both images were meant to gain my trust. Over a period of about a week I began to see shadows, which then turned into these various images, first beginning with the shepard. On the final night, the shadow morphed into a shepard, then the Virgin Mary, but with wicked teeth/fangs and eyes, and then it showed it's true face. In a matter of seconds it changed faces over and over and went through about ten different faces. They were demonic in nature, meaning it shared no resemblance to human or animal figures. For each face there were no eyes/pupils, just blank holes. Seeing this literally made me feel sick and I threw up. I have had other experiences with evil spirits and some might say demons, but this was quite different.



ARE WE PROTECTED IF WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO THE SPIRIT WORLD?

One thing I want to make clear was that for my experiences in which I have seen evil things, I was not looking for such things, nor looking into things of that nature. This was however a time in my life in which I was beginning to open up, and having to make some choices. Aside from seeing not so good things, I also saw lights appear near musical instruments in my room (peace) and weapons (war), which to me meant that I was to choose between two sides. I was also warned before hand to be mindful of the shadows. I don't see the experience as a negative one, rather I see it as a way to open my eyes to what is truly out there. To know evil, but to also know love is a great gift. When we open ourselves up to things we may not be familiar with, we are trusting, without always knowing where we are putting that trust. So to me the answer to the question is yes and no. It depends where we are putting that trust. i put my trust in God, or try to.



DID THEY ORIGINALLY HAVE A BODY OF FLESH?  

If you define a demon as also an evil spirit, then yes, it may have once lived in the flesh. if you define a demon as a fallen angel, then to me the answer is no. I really do not think it matters whether a spirit or demon or angel has once lived in the flesh or not. This is one of those areas where I disagree with Spiritalk. I believe there are spirits or entities that exist and can be spoken with that have never lived in the flesh. An additional example are jin.
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Just wanted to add that while answering the second question, the lights in my room flickered for a moment.
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spiritalk wrote:
lighting strikes twice wrote:
IS DEMONIAC SPIRITS REAL?

J:  Depending on the fears placed with individuals, demons are a construct of church authorities.  They were used as a means of control of the populace.  The question, to my mind, would be more valid to say are there uneducated (up to no good, maybe even evil,) spirits?  And then I would have to say an unequivical yes.

DO THEY IMITATE LOVED ONE'S THAT HAVE PASSED?

J:  The uneducated spirits in the lower realms of spirit existence live by an animal nature and in an atmosphere of fog.  When some uneducated mediums attune to this level, they are opening themselves to the pretenders.  They pretend so that they can be acknowledged in their plight.  Sometimes it is not because of evil, but just out of fears of their own.

ARE WE PROTECTED IF WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO THE SPIRIT WORLD?

J:  One of the things we do is make sure we are protected.  One of the ways to do this is to know who we are working with through energies of love rather than control or other motives.  The unseen can not affect us if we do not allow their agenda to be served.

DID THEY ORIGINALLY HAVE A BODY OF FLESH?  


J:  The spirit realms, as we know them, are a continuity of earth living.  There are no 'other species' as in some one who has not lived an earth life available in our connection to spirit realms.  Having walked this way before gives them some insight into our own challenges and some answers they have gleaned through experience.  That is why the guide we allow is so important.



PS Interesting questions.[/i]


I'm sure of this-the con man can only con you if you are unaware that the con is a con man. The question then is, how, do you know you are not led to believe a lie of deception? What guarantee will you give that you are right and all will be well with us? Also, if the bible is correct and you are wrong, it also says that you will be held accountable for all those you have caused to stumble.

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