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saikikudh


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wow cool

lots of 11 in my case. is that good or bad.

and what is the karmic debt you were talking about in the previous post?
and how can i calculate mine, and what is the meaning of the karmic debt.

i have to read another post maybe in this forum to find about karmic debt
enumero123


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numbers are vibrations , these vibrations can be either good or bad   all depends on how use  and deal with them ... the 11 being master level energy can be hard to deal with .

   11  Highly intuitive, even psychic, this Master number is a channel between the sub-conscious and the conscious mind. Highly charged. Can be neurotic.

The 11 is the most intuitive of all numbers. It represents illumination; a channel to the subconscious; insight without rational thought; and sensitivity, nervous energy, shyness, and impracticality. It is a dreamer. The 11 has all the aspects of the 2, enhanced and charged with charisma, leadership, and inspiration. It is a number with inborn duality, which creates dynamism, inner conflict, and other catalyses with its mere presence. It is a number that, when not focused on some goal beyond itself, can be turned inward to create fears and phobias. The 11 walks the edge between greatness and self-destruction. Its potential for growth, stability, and personal power lies in its acceptance of intuitive understanding, and of spiritual truths. For the 11, such peace is not found so much in logic, but in faith. It is the psychic's number.

as for as karmic debt numbers  13, 14 16 19  doing a full chart can show were these numbers might show up .....

13:    Hard work and slow progress, this Karmic Debt number is difficult but rewarding when enough effort is applied. Grounded and down-to-earth. Reliable, trustworthy, but sometimes rigid and lacking a sense of humor.

Those with the 13 Karmic Debt will work very hard to accomplish any task. Obstacles stand in their way, and must be overcome time and again. One may often feel burdened and frustrated by the seeming futility of one's efforts there may be a desire to surrender to the difficulties and simply give up on the goal, believing it was impossible to attain in the first place. Some with the 13 Karmic Debt fall to laziness and negativity. But efforts are not futile, and success is well within reach. One simply must work hard, and persevere in order to reach the goal. Many highly successful people in all walks of life, including business, art, and athletics, have a 13 Karmic Debt.

The key to succeeding wit the 13 is focus. Very often, people with the 13 Karmic Debt do not concentrate or direct their energies in one specific direction, or on a single task, but scatter their energies over many projects and jobs, none of which amount to very much. A temptation wit the 13 is to take shortcuts for quick success. Too often, that easy success doesn't come, causing regret and the desire to give up. The result is a poor self-image, and the belief that one is incapable of amounting to very much.

In order to focus, you must maintain order in your life. Order is essential to success. You must maintain a schedule, keep appointments, and follow through. Keep your environment neat and under control, and never procrastinate. If you sustain a steady and consistent effort, you will realize much reward.


14: A wild streak. Need for change and adventure can destroy carefully planned progress. Lack of focus and commitment. This Karmic Debt number can get you in trouble. Guard against self-indulgence.

The 14 Karmic Debt arises from previous lifetimes during which human freedom has been abused. Those with a 14 Karmic Debt are forced to adapt to ever-changing circumstances and unexpected occurrences. There is an acute danger of falling victim to abuse of drugs, alcohol, and overindulgence in sensual pleasures, such as food and sex. You must put the reins on yourself. Modesty in all affairs is crucial to overcoming this Karmic Debt.

Also important is the need to maintain order in life, and to establish one's own emotional stability. you must also be willing to adapt to the unexpected occurrences of life, all the while maintaining your focus on your goals and dreams. Flexibility and adaptability are at the very core of this struggle.
Orderliness in one's immediate environment is crucial to maintaining clarity and focus. Mental and emotional stability must be attained in order to avoid being thrown about by the changing fortunes in the external environment.

But the key to the 14 Karmic Debt is commitment. Life will resemble a roller coaster ride, but it will always travel in the right direction if one's heart is set on what is true and good. Set yourself a high goal, maintain order wherever possible in your life, avoid excessive sensory indulgence, and maintain faith. Above all, do not give up on your dreams and goals.
Those with the 14 Karmic Debt will experience life to the fullest, and as long as they maintain a high dream, they will achieve success and great spiritual development.


16 Difficult, especially during the early part of life. Great potential for spiritual  growth and self-knowledge. This Karmic Debt numbers reflects "The Fallen Tower" in Tarot. Can be self-destructive.

The 16 Karmic Debt - wherever it shows up on the chart - means destruction of the old and birth of the new. The 16 is about the fall of the ego, and all that it has built for itself. It is a watershed, a cleansing. All that has been constructed, and all that serves to separate the person from the source of life is destroyed. Through the 16, reunion with the great spirit is accomplished.
This can be a painful process, because it usually comes after much ego inflation. This results in a struggle between the ego and the divine will. Life presents challenges to your grand plans, which can be resented and struggled against. It is a lost battle, and you will likely feel humbled in the face of the collapse that follows. This humility is the key to later success, however, because you will learn to follow the intimations of a higher reality. In the destruction of the old, a spiritual rebirth takes place with an entirely new awareness. This rebirth affects every area of your life. It is a life much the better for the fall.

Those with the 16 Karmic Debt must be careful of egotism. Very often, those with the 16 use their highly intuitive and refined intellect to look down upon others, and view the rest of the world as inferior. This causes acute alienation and loneliness. In addition, it invites retribution, for the egotist is humbled more harshly than any other.
When the 16 is in one of the core numbers, this process of destruction and rebirth is a continual cycle that actually serves to bring you into higher consciousness and closer union with the source of life.

The 16 Karmic Debt can be a path of progress and great spiritual growth if it is looked at properly. One develops great faith by placing one's life in the hands of God. Through such faith, gratitude and peace are firmly established.

19 Strong and individualistic. Self-reliant and confident, this Karmic Debt number can bring loneliness and alienation. Leadership. Sometimes bullish.
The person with the 19 Karmic Debt will learn independence and the proper use of power. You will be forced to stand up for yourself, and often be left to stand alone. Difficulties will be faced and overcome through personal struggle.

One of the central lessons for people with the 19 Karmic Debt is that you stubbornly resist help. Much of your independence is self-imposed; you simply don't want to listen to others, or to accept the help or advice of others.
The 19 Karmic Debt can become a self imposed prison if you do not open up to the reality of interdependence, and the mutual need for love.

The most important lesson for the 19 Karmic Debt is: While you seek to stand on your own feet, you are still a human being, deeply connected with others and in need of the support, assistance, and human understanding that all people need. Those with the 19 Karmic Debt will learn the hard way that "no man is an island," and that we are, indeed, "all bits of the main!"
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The only thing I disagree with about the 2 is how it says that I am overly sensitive, vulnerable to criticism, and my ego bruises easily. Not to sound too cocky or anything, but there is no way my ego could be bruised, and I am such a far more critical person than anyone could ever be of me. They aren't telling me anything I don't already know and if they are I don't take it personally. I listen to them and if I think they are right I fix it. But everything else was right on point. I think my eye for beauty comes FROM my critical eye. I am a hairstylist and I am very ocd about my haircuts.
enumero123


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there are many numbers that make up our charts but i would like to focus on the two for a moment


image : diplomat- cooperation
desire : peace- partnership-balance

pattern : gestation -duality

positive expression key words:  feminine balance diplomatic adaptable rhythmic gentle harmonious receptive aware of details considerate sensitive friendly companionship
tactful peacemaker kind thoughtful psychic ability considerate cooperative reflective....

negative expression key words : dependent self pity too emotional too sensitive meddling arbitrary careless strident extremist dishonest overlooks detail creates divisiveness
resentful unforgiving

denial expression key words: insensitive/rude overly concerned about detail faultfinding vacillating

as a symbol of duality -the universe of opposites in which we live -the 2 stands alongside the 1 , offering a perspective of balance to 1s narrow point of view .the 2 individual is able to see both sides of the equation through a fine discernment of details. often beyond conscious awareness .

the 2s highly emotional nature can often grasp the subtleties of human interaction where the intellect alone is lost . this therefore the 2 is able to bridge the chasm of misunderstanding and become a peacemaker . indeed ,the 2 desires peace and harmony in all relationships and can be in danger of self denial or meddling in order to bring about about this desired condition .

a 2 energy .in a positive mode .is perfect partner and companion ,soothing the way with a desire for mutual cooperation .the 2 adapts easily to situations where a more rigid or focused vibration is unable to go  ..
enumero123


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"The only thing I disagree with about the 2 is how it says that I am overly sensitive, vulnerable to criticism, and my ego bruises easily. Not to sound too cocky or anything, but there is no way my ego could be bruised, and I am such a far more critical person than anyone could ever be of me. They aren't telling me anything I don't already know and if they are I don't take it personally. I listen to them and if I think they are right I fix it. But everything else was right on point. I think my eye for beauty comes FROM my critical eye. I am a hairstylist and I am very ocd about my haircuts."    

im sorry but the possibility is likely if your were offended hurt and a negative energy vibration was present  the opposite of peace  is war
Am I 11 or 2??
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