karmic debt numbers can be hard to deal with  .the way i do the life path  the example is my own  nov /2/1963   11/2/1 which gives me a 14/5 life path  .it fits like a finely tuned fiddle  and i have come to understand it . my name is darren wayne buchenberger   which in the western form has 9 fives in it that alot of fives    so geting back to the question of death or suicide  fate or destiny   death yes in both cases  but not because of a karmic debt       suicide  no in both cases  i feel its a failure to see our inner self /no hope no light   no direction  disconnection with spirit  chaos  i dont see the natural order of things as chaos... i believe man is the master of chaos... brought into being by not understanding and knowing  when a person is in this state any thing is possible even death ..............................123456789.............

My birthdate is 9/19/1977. So I'd have 16 lifepath. 19 and 16 karmic debt, right? Do you think the karmic debt lessons keep repeating until we learn the lessons and then taper off. Or will the lessons just keep getting deeper? I feel like whatever situations come up in life that I am tring to learn how to better handle keep repeating. I'm hoping that once I learn how to better handle these uncomfortable situations they won't be so uncomfortable.
I have a lot of 5's in my name too.
My expression and life path are both 7's.

yes you right  i see the 16 19 in your chart .thats the goal is to learn to over come the karmic debt ,and we can in time.  i understand exactly what your going though its not easy by no means . but knowing is the first step .  the fives for me  make it hard to focus  i am always  looking into something new, but get easy bored with it .which causes me to open another door another adventure so to say .i also feel the 7 energy alot since i have gotten older, i have a 7 as a maturity number .  again its not a easy sometimes i have a 14/5 karmic debt  when i was younger i drank and did alot of drugs and feel it in other ways too believe me . my daughters ,one has a 16/7 the other a 13/4 in thIer core numbers my son had a 19/1 as a birth day and is in a 19/1 essence and will remain there until the age of 23  he is 20 now  he is having a very hard time with things ...my daughter the youngest is having  Trouble in school  13/4  my oldest daughter is in a bad relationship and withdraws alot into yourself  16/7 .   so i do know and feel the effects of these karmic debts around me everywhere . numerology has been a very helpful tool for me a blessing and i try to teach and show others its power .most dont believe and thats my biggest problem ... i have always been drawn to the metaphysical  and its been a passion with me for many many years ...alot of people concider me as strange and weird .but thats ok   lol

If you're strange and weird, I am too lol.  I have a lot of 5's...so doesn't that reveal the hidden passion. I'm in the 5 challenge right now.


I'm in recovery from addiction. Getting in recovery gave me the beginning of a spiritual basis that my life path and destiny called for. My maturity number is a 14/5. Does that mean I have that karmic debt too? That's a lot of karmic debt lol My life has by no means been easy. It's interesting that the few people I've calculated numbers for in recovery...most have the 14/5 hidden passion. My daughter has this as hers too...She's only two. I wasn't sure if the maturity number was an indication of karmic debt as well.  It's interesting that I got into recovery right around the age of cycle changes, pinnacle and period changes. Pinnacle change from 1 to 7. Period change 9 to 6. I've always been drawn to the metaphysical too.  

i believe you have been given that one too  dont feel bad 14/5  i always remember the key words abuse of freedom  and that hits home .the main thing to see is that you have been given a gift of knowing  and because of it you can over come the suffering that can be reflected in these karmic debts  .reincarnation comes to mind i must have been bad in a past life time..lol