David I appreciate your interest... maybe go to "new Posts" where I happen to have an ongoing conversation with a new friend who is a Feng Shui consultant. It all happen to come about based on "negative bathroom energy", which is the topic, too. But it sort of escalated into the whole house and the fact that more is needed to bring my place back to normal than just regular Feng Shui. (We try to get back to the "bathroom" theme every so often to be able to continue the thread, but in Feng Shui all is somewhere connected, anyway- you can't always just fix one room...) you can read there what's been happening. Cityhunter has a lot of experience with bad spirits and demons he encountered trying to help someone with Feng Shui consultations and in turn acquired a lot of "outside" knowledge. Yes, they are real! But so are good spirits and guardian angels!
Besides, Cityhunter agrees that the orbs might be spiritual phenomena based on what we talked about on the thread history...

We are all here on the material world to gain experiences of a spiritual nature.  The purpose of life is mainly to spiritualize our individualized soul.  

Each and every one of us is unique and different.  And that is the measure of what we will take with us on death of the body into the spirit realms.  These experiences are all recorded as a sum total of our being.

That being said, there are realms in the spirit existence for all manner of souls.  From the uneducated to the downright nasty, they still exist - they are an accumulation of their earth plane existence and experiences.  

If we believe in higher spirit, we have to believe in lower spirit.  It just makes sense.  And a suicide would be really confused because it takes a confused mind to commit suicide in the first place.  Perhaps the relationship in the house at the time was a part of the cause or he has made it such and that is why he encourages bad thoughts in his spirit form.

Hi Spiritalk,

That makes a lot of sense, I guess I always looked at it as us being the ground level and all spirit planes being a bit beyond us - which made it difficult to understand a 'bad' spirit as being anything more than frustration or misunderstanding. But I suppose that's a bit of wishful thinking on my part, or a way to try to not have that scared tingly adrenaline rush feeling whenever something seems paranormal.

The confusion makes sense too, but that leads back to the wanting to help them feeling. Does it ever work that way? Are you able to help a confused or 'bad' spirit realize they are dead and find some sense of peace? or are they just trapped repeating the emotions, feelings, and events of the time of their death? All I ever really hear about it seem very cruel and barbaric ways of dealing with it... 'driving the spirit out', exorcising the spirit, warding your house to keep it away... you don't really ever hear about anyone helping them, you only ever hear about the good ones helping us... does it not work both ways?


Warm Regards,


David

The reason we can help from the earth plane is because their vibration is actually lower than most spiritual people on the earth plane.  They can hear and address us - where the spirit is kind of beyond their ken.  

They are frightened (for so many reasons) to actually go into the light.  Consider a dark soul thinking of itself no worthy to be in the light.  And light is the measure of the spirituality of the soul.

Those that know what they are doing do not just dismiss or exorcise the spirit entities.  They actually talk them into the light because their loved ones are waiting to greet them.  It is merely our fears that hold us in this stuck state - not really evil but confusion and lack of education.

Spiritualism always consider life progressive and will aid that with all stuck spirit.