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My Dearest Pravin, I am in tears over gratefulness to you
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My dearest Pravin,

I had not had time to be here for so long, and I was looking through the posts, and I just found this one. Your words led me to tears, and my husband and I have to come to India to meet you in person when this is over. You have come to mean so much to us.

I do want to us the money that I know is coming into our lives to send Deborah over there, so she has no worries. I have wanted to go to India for so so long.

One time, long ago, I loved my guru so very much. It was Swami Muktananda. I found God through him, and his teachings. It never left me because it was so profound. You brought back those wonderful places inside that brought me total peace. You have brought back what I lost through so much confusion.

One man from India wrote me before our arson fire about my guru Muktananda, and he sent me some buchu leaves, and went through a fire ceremony for me. He told me that my Guru was innocent of the sexual abuse charges against him, but I don't know. I had another friend who was a physicist for the government that loved Muktananda too, and I lived with him for about a year after my abduction from that guy in Norway. He too said that he was innocent. I trust you intuition and judgement after the vision you shared. I do understand the meaning I think, and I will go into that. But first I must ask you. Do you believe my Guru Swami Muktananda was falsely charged? I left everything to follow God, and his teachings. Then, I found out that he was not celibate? I really need to know what you see, and you being in India know more about what really takes place. It would help me make peace inside one way or another. I still loved my Guru with every breath that I took once. And, the American people did not understand the relationship that a disciple could have with their Guru like that. When I would meditate, I was left almost breathless because of my love for him and God. Please help.

Now, for the incredible post, that has me crying again.

"Dear Pamela,

I have been reading a book on "The Path of Meditation" and have been so much inspired by it that I practised yesterday night and today morning and this is what I saw while meditating.

"You with your husband are standing outside while your home was being burnst to ashes. It was Dark inside , extremely dark before the fire broke out. Then as I meditated further it started raining heavily (There are so many storms in USA that this has now become common). Anyway after the rains doused the fires I saw the whole house burnst to ashes."

We have had many predictions from others, like Elizabeth Jensen, my father, etc. that have seen our house that was illegally condemned by Butte County Officials be burned to the ground.

The house is getting fixed up as we speak, and there are conversations that took place that got back to us through the Wes Web as we call it that Gary Brown, the code enforcement officer was going to hire Tom Glaum to burn our house down for him. Gary Brown is in the cult and pornography ring for sure, and he knows we know about all of his crimes. Gary Brown hired a man we know that is in protective custody that burned three houses down for him in the past. Gary Brown also almost killed another man we know about six months ago, when he took the car he was driving, and hit the man on his bicycle on purpose, and fled the scene on purpose, and left him for dead.

His plans for Tom Glaum to do the job backfired when Tom's daughter was abducted from the pedophile and pornography ring, and we located his daughter within three days, and we found her just out of the State, and he could get no help from this County or any Sheriff to help him. The same individual's connect to our case with our daughter being abducted from Children's Services. A man named Alan Lavender in particular. When he picked up his daughter from the home they had her at, Alan Lavender was there. Alan Lavender is the step-father of the girl Krystine Fredrick. We were going to adopt Krystine Fredrick, and Krystine helped do the crimes against us in the end, and helped get my daughter abducted.

Because we went public about the Superfund Sites that have been killing people with their poison's too, and Wes' house is located within the problem area that we spoke about, we were told through the Wes web also, that Official's were going to burn all of the houses down that had anything to do being located near the superfund site on purpose, and possibly kill people again.

One woman we know didn't pay her 40% to the County went she was selling drugs. Many times this drug selling activity is forced upon the individual because they know too much, and then when they don't give them the 40%, they are arrestted or their house is burned down. This woman was nine months pregnant, and had two small children. Official's had someone come, and board up their front door etc. of a second story apartment, and set it on fire with them in it. She had to jump from a second story window which killed her unborn baby, and injured all of them. Nothing was done. When she became someone that I spoke about to some Official's on line, she is now homeless with four children, and her husband, and no one knows where they are because they were going to jail by Butte County Officials.

In the visions that individual's had, we were told that we would have the house all fixed up, and when we were gone somewhere, it would be burned to the ground. One individual said that the fire would start at night, and it would be made to look like it started from our shed by some accident, and it would spread to the house, and burn to the ground. What you saw may be the same thing they all saw. I just hope we don't loose our animal's or our lives. The things I could care less about.

"Then I tried sending the light and I first sent you light and your Husband and then I get your daughter and son too. I shed so much light that gradually as I again saw your house it was brought back to normalcy with new furnitures and latest gadgets and a completely new look and found you all so happy inside. "

You may have changed the vision, and we will have a new look to our house when it is done. But, I think this may be a different house that we have all of the latest gadgets, and all of us happy inside. I had a vision of us in a different house, and we were happy. I don't know where it was, but it was not in Oroville. Maybe after the County burns our house down, we will get relocated. I don't know. I have been kept in the dark about all of this. I can't get any pictures on my own much about this.

"I have already posted some chapters from this book above and do read it and follow it and I think the evil forces will subside. "

I will start reading the Chapters Pravin. Thank you for posting them. I do have some music to meditate by now, which helps me a lot.

"I shall ask Guia to interpret this visualisation by me in Alpha Level. "

Thank you for asking Guia to help interpret this visualisation. Please let me know what is said.

I am going to write dear bluebutterfly, who I really have not had time to write. She is going through some darkness that I once went through, and I know it is past time to write this dear soul. I hope that she will forgive me for being so late in writing her.

"Pamela you are something special. Way back I was chatting with Linda and asked her how did she rate you as a human being. And she said she could not rate you as you were much much higher than our imagination. I replied the same when she asked me the same question. You are an angel on this earth come to set right the evil forces and make them see the light of the day."

This is what made me cry. I have no words....... I rate you and all the people here that have touched me here the same. This group has been the healing of my heart, and people with love. Real Love. Real Prayers. Real people of God. None of you have ever thrown us away, or banned us from their site, or judged us badly. Only love and healing. I will never forget. Never.

" They are only trying to put fear in your mind."

I realize this now in ways that I could never dream possible of ever fighting. But, now I believe I have tools, and I am not helpless any longer to the lower tactics that are used. Thank you everyone for bringing me out from the pit of darkness into the light.


"Anyway you are the best judge as you are facing the situation and I await your comments with interest on this.

Pravin Kumar. "

Thank you so much Pravin for your words to me. I think of your words as Gold. They always bring me closer to the truth, and to the light of God. I have to say the same for Floridalightworker, Deborah, Birdie, Aelis, bluebutterfly, and others. Thank you.

Love, Pamela
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Dear Pamela,

This is the copy of the reply given by Guia (aelis004) and similar replies have been given by others too. Just see the Dream Analysis Section and I think Rose has also given somewhat similar reply.

Fire in its destructive violence purifies and ashes fetilize. From the rainwater comes new life and darkness is defeated by its own violence that makes it collapse in the end. Like the phoenix find a new birth from its ashes, so those who thought they had defeated you only set the ground for your rising.
It reminds me of the Book of Job, time and unflickering faith will win over evil that shall self-destruct. Your family will be reunited and you shall be rewarded for your constancy.


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The Restoration of Job's Prosperity
10 ¶ And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.
11 Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
12 So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
14 And he called the name of the first, Jemi'ma; and the name of the second, Kezi'a; and the name of the third, Keren–hap'puch.
15 And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
16 After this lived Job a hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.
17 So Job died, being old and full of days.



(Book of Job, Ch. 42)

Take care Pamela - I shall be sending you and your family Love and Light for your highest good for as long as it is needed.

_________________
Love and Light,
:::Aelis:::

Usui Reiki and Seichim master


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Dear Pamela,

This is the copy of the reply given by Guia (aelis004) and similar replies have been given by others too. Just see the Dream Analysis Section and I think Rose has also given somewhat similar reply.

Fire in its destructive violence purifies and ashes fetilize. From the rainwater comes new life and darkness is defeated by its own violence that makes it collapse in the end. Like the phoenix find a new birth from its ashes, so those who thought they had defeated you only set the ground for your rising.
It reminds me of the Book of Job, time and unflickering faith will win over evil that shall self-destruct. Your family will be reunited and you shall be rewarded for your constancy.


Quote:
The Restoration of Job's Prosperity
10 ¶ And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.
11 Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
12 So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
14 And he called the name of the first, Jemi'ma; and the name of the second, Kezi'a; and the name of the third, Keren–hap'puch.
15 And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
16 After this lived Job a hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.
17 So Job died, being old and full of days.



(Book of Job, Ch. 42)

Take care Pamela - I shall be sending you and your family Love and Light for your highest good for as long as it is needed.

_________________
Love and Light,
:::Aelis:::

Usui Reiki and Seichim master


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Dear Pamela and Wes,

I cannot comment upon Swami Muktananda but if his teachings and meditation techniques give you relief than you have to believe regardless of what you may have heard. You have not seen anything unusual with your own eyes then you have to believe him. I cannot critisize him as I do not know him but I have heard of Swami Yoganand who was really great.

Again if his teachings and meditation techniques or anything else inspires you tremendously then no problem. Only 3 weeks back I had a discussion with my Guru and this is what was discussed amongst so many other things. If your faith in your Guru is total and your Guru tells you to jump from the top of the Mountain you will never be hurt. If he asks you to walk on water you will be able to do so. But if the same Guru who had little faith in his disciple were to jump from top of the Mount he will be seriously injured and may even die and if he were to attempt to walk on the water he will fail miserably if his faith in his disciple or in himself is lacking.

One girl of 26 (This happened some 10 years ago) whose husband took me to their house to show the hands of all of them had total faith in me just on hearsay from her husband that I am a Palmist. I never claim to be a great Palmist. But her faith in me was total and when she opened the door she simply slept on the floor and worshipped like so many do sincerly to a very honoured person. (People in many parts of India still believe Palmist, Astrologers etc. are Pandits who are highly knowledgeable). By this very act of hers she drew considerable power from my body and my soul was raised to the highest level and I reached HIM. I prayed to HIM . Oh God please solve this girl's problem. This girl (married) had menses problem though only 50% and I pointed this out to her and told her until and unless she treated it and got allright she would not be able to bear a child. God Bless her soul she took my advise so much that within 3 years she became pregnant and I made another prediction of the boy which came out to be so true that they called for me when I was in their city (Imphal in Manipur) . This time when I went to her house she was full 9 months pregnant and due in 15 days time.

In this condition (her stomach protruding out ) she simply fell flat on my foot and as if worshipped me 4 times. I was immediately raised to Heaven and asked HIM : Oh God please give this girl whatever she wants i.e. boy or girl. HE granted me this wish and I asked the girl what do you want a baby boy or a baby girl. She said she wanted a male child. I told her she will definitely get it as I was speaking HIS words. She defintely got a male child and I was so sure about it that not for a moment I doubted it.

I asked my Guru why did this happen i.e. the girl kneeling down and worshipping me like God pulled so much of power out of me. Then my Guru explained. By your good deeds you have so much Protons in your body and this is what is pulled away by those who seek your blessings provided their Faith is complete and total in you.

Therefore Pamela I say if you get that sort of Faith in Muktananda and even if people call what you said, just forget it. Your Faith in HIM inspires you then go for it. What harm can come to you?

So the most ordinary person's total faith can do wonders and by the way how much you inspire all of us? We never cease to talk about you: Linda, Debbie, Aelis 004 (Guia) and admire your Guts and Courage and I am sure HE is definitely giving you full support otherwise such petty criminals scaring you with such silly petty acts. Great Criminals do not warn, they just act and act Deadly. Was John F. Kennedy warned about the impending Death? You can see so many other examples where such people are involved.

Attacking you with 5 fat women was the silliest thing they could have done and they have shown what they are made off. There is another beautiful e mail I have received in another Group with beautiful photographs saying where God wants me. It shows so many people who were saved in that World Trade Centre disaster as God wanted them to be elsewhere at that very particular moment although they all worked there or were about to reach there but something happened and could not reach there. GOD wants you where you are and when HIS work is over or when HE decides HE will shift you elsewhere. I do not know how to send this slide. I shall ask Linda how to do so and send it to you through her.

A true Sanyasin or Guru is a person whose soul is MAHAAN and hence we call HIM MAHA ( N ) ATMA. HE is a person for whom girl or a boy, man or woman are all alike like children of God and HE has love for them all and could do anything for them provided they have total FAITH IN HIM. It is therefore I see that many a times an ordinary person is so highly regarded and gets HIS blessings easily than those who are very influential and rich and high and mighty. What has money and status got to do with HIS love which cannot be bought but can be got through simple act of TOTAL FAITH IN HIM.

I HAVE MET SUCH A MAHAN ATMA SHRI SANT BABA KASHIVISHWANATHJI AND HE REMAINS THE ULTIMATE IN MANKIND.

I was lucky my Guru took me to HIM in July 1995 and now HIS Samadhi lies in Aurangabad and true to HIS Nature there is very little crowd as HE HIMSELF DID NOT LIKE A CROWD DESPITE HIS MIRACULOUS POWER. HE healed HIS Devotees, Solved problems of each and every person who could make it to HIM. Gave food to all prepared by HIMSELF, MARRIED POOR GIRLS TO GOOD BOYS AND GAVE DOWRY HIMSELF AND THE MARRIAGE WAS ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL. It was HIS view that all those who would visit HIM should get their problems solved totally. That is the reason no crowd.

It is HE who is writing all this to you through me and HE sends HIS Blessings to you. HE always believed in LOVE AND TOTAL LOVE TO ALL. HE PREACHED THE LANGUAGE OF LOVE. Once when I asked HIM what should we ask GOD IF GOD WERE TO GRANT OUR ONE WISH SO THAT OUR LIFE BECOMES SUCCESSFUL. HE SAID ASK FOR HIS LOVE AND NOTHING ELSE. THAT IS EVERYTHING IN LIFE.

A child is born with the love of their parents. Brothers and Sisters can remain together with love and respect for each other. Love for your neighbours make them your best friends, Guardian and we in India believe Neighbours are much more better than our own relatives as in a crisis they are always near at hand. So Love is the greatest demand of every Human Being but Money, Hatred, Greed and so many other things have dimmed this Love which a person needs last when he is above to leave this world. Every person at that time realises the value of True Love.

God Bless You All.

Pravin Kumar.


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