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vivekvshetty


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Namaskaar CRS ji,
Great answer!
You missed the Bhaava from Kaaraka and the Kaaraka itself.
Looking at the Bhaava from Kaaraka (7th from Shukra) in the first the chart we see that it falls in the 11th bhaava, this shows that the first relationship may have started out as friendship and he met his spouse amongst his friend circle.
In the second chart the seventh from Shukra is the fourth Bhaava and shows he met his spouse at home or during education etc.

Now looking at the Kaarakas in both the chart we can see a qualitative difference. In the first chart Shukra is heavily afflicted by all the three worst natural malefics, showing anger (Mangal), Sorrow (Shani) and shock (Raahu) will have to be experienced in relationships by the native.
In the second chart, an Exalted Shukra with Guru willgive very fortunate experiences w.r.t relationship/s.

RishiRahul and vivek.

mysbcrs wrote:
Namaskaar Vivekji,

I was a little hesitant to start-off, lest I pre-empt others. Now that 3 days have elapsed, I dont have to feel guilty. -

I have tried to apply the lesson in the previous post to the extent I have understood, ignoring the past analysis.
I look forward to your feedback.

1st chart - DOB 23jun66

Bhava from lagna - 7th is in Karka with Budha. The native will like to ensure peace, tranquility and creativity in marriage.
Budha denoted a seeker of quick results and may try to achive it by intelligent talk, conversational felicity, falling in line with
the powerful as the situation demands (even if he lacks conviction).ad-hoc resolution of issues etc.

In Navamsha 7th has Rahu and Sukra. Rahu can indicate that spouse may cheat the native. Sukra can indicate that the spouse seeks luxury, enjoyment and comforts from the native.

Bhaavesh from lagna - In Simha in 8th amy denote undisclosed agenda (legacies from native's father in future), agressive egotistic stance of the partner.

Bhava from Karaka - Sukra is in 11th. Since Bhava is in 3rd, native will derive happiness in later periods. Greater intiative and better communications will help the native.

Bhavesh from Karaka - Chandra is in 4th from Sukra. Hence the native looks upon the spouse a source of happiness.

2nd chart - 5feb64

Bhava from lagna - 7th is in dhabus with Budha and Kethu. Dhanus indicates sense of righteousness backed by agression to protect it.
Native will try to achieve it through agressive speech and personal skills (Budha) and will look at marriage as a spiritual experience stressing upon the attendant social/moral obligations rather than selfish intents.

In Navamsha the 7th is Vrishchik without any planet. This could mean a ruthless, calculative, self centred (may include family) spouse.

Bhaavesh from lagna - Bhavesh is in 10th from lagna, indicating that the native is very happy with marriage and looks at it as very supportive of his profession which in turn helps his earnings and livelihood. It also rows better over a period of time.

Bhava from karaka - Sukara is in 10th. Hence the native looks upon the spouse as a source of happiness.

Bhavesh from Karaka - Bhavesh is conjunct Sukra. Hence the native feels that the partner is supportive in all aspects and each step of his matched by the spouse.

CRS
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Dhanyavaad Vivekji,

Whatever little I know is due to you, Rshiji and others. I certainly hope that I will always remain conscious of this.

CRS
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Dear Vivek ji

I would like to put my understanding on it as you have mentioned for example

Eg : 1 Here shukra is in 5th so for shukra we look 7th (as it is karka of that house)  it says person coming to mana so we looked 11th as it is 7th from 5th now here visiti ji mentions about its lord too
So can we say that 11th bhava shows some friend and 11th lord here mangal in 5th that particular person may be of different faith as 5th is for our faith I added my knowledge from visti jis lectures where he says bhavas are particular area of our life and planets are person So above can we say 11th bhava friends and its lord in 5th says that particular friend from different faith

Also Bhaavesh from karaka sambhandha shows experince with that particular person so if kendra trikona relation shows happy experence then why eg 1 person marriage was trouble

Correct if i am wrong so that i could try on other charts too

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Swapnil
gaonkarswapnil


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Dear Vivek ji

You asked me reason for why ketu is exalted in dhanu

Here is my understanding when i was going thru MKS article this thing came to my mind

In natural zodiac 9th dhanu is for dharma and ketu is a karaka for spritual work so a spritual person will be happy where there is dharma going so ketu becomes exalted there

correct me if i am wrong

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Swapnil
vivekvshetty


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Namaskaar swapnil ji,
Our understanding below.
gaonkarswapnil wrote:
Dear Vivek ji

I would like to put my understanding on it as you have mentioned for example

Eg : 1 Here shukra is in 5th so for shukra we look 7th (as it is karka of that house)  it says person coming to mana so we looked 11th as it is 7th from 5th now here visiti ji mentions about its lord too
So can we say that 11th bhava shows some friend and 11th lord here mangal in 5th that particular person may be of different faith as 5th is for our faith I added my knowledge from visti jis lectures where he says bhavas are particular area of our life and planets are person So above can we say 11th bhava friends and its lord in 5th says that particular friend from different faith

Seventh from Shukra as well as the lord will show us the place we meet our partner. It can show if we will meet easily or it will take some movement or effort and also the area of life where we will find it easier to meet her/him.
The thing about the spouse and the type of marriage/relationship will be seen more clearly from the Navaamsha chart.  


Also Bhaavesh from karaka sambhandha shows experince with that particular person so if kendra trikona relation shows happy experence then why eg 1 person marriage was trouble
Bhaavesha is Chandra and is placed in  the 4th from Kaaraka Shukra in Maranakaaraka (8th from Lagna). Do you think this is a very positive placement?
How did the spouse make the native feel?
The spouse already had a child from previous marriage when she got married to this native. Later on she made the native live in the out house away from her.  
 

Correct if i am wrong so that i could try on other charts too

Regards

Swapnil


RishiRahul and vivek.
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