Namashkaar Swapnil ji,

Simply explained, What you think of yourself can NEVER be the same as what others think of you.

In other words, the OTHERS can never know the Real YOU.

Again what the others know about you can NEVER be the EXACT opposite of THE REAL YOU.

Are you in agreement with what we said just now above?

We await your answer. If you do not understand this, tell us why?

vivek and RishiRahul

Dear Rishi ji

I some what understood the points what you said thought came in my mind (as there is a discussion going on about lord rama chart) does this happens with the case of great peoples too that others can never understand the real lord or vice versa

And other thing is that if it cannot be opposite i mean 7th then why the 4th from 7th i know there must be some reason please explain

Regards

Swapnil

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Namashkaar Swapnil ji,

Simply explained, What you think of yourself can NEVER be the same as what others think of you.

In other words, the OTHERS can never know the Real YOU.

Again what the others know about you can NEVER be the EXACT opposite of THE REAL YOU.

Are you in agreement with what we said just now above?

We await your answer. If you do not understand this, tell us why?

vivek and RishiRahul[/quote



Namashkaar Swapnil,

Since the 'REAL YOU' can never be the same or exact opposite of whaat the OTHERS think of YOU....the Arudha lagna cannot be the same as the Lagna or its 7th. house.

This was decided by the maharshis that in case the Arudha Lagna falls in the same place as Lagna or its 7th. , the 10th house(Karmashtana) should be chosen from the lagna or h. as the case may me. It was chosen as Karma is supreme in the material world. (Arudhas belong to the material world)

Is it clear now?


vivek and RishiRahul

Arudha Lagna or (AL)

            Is the Reflection of the Lagna. It is distinctly visible as it catches the mind.
       What an individual may know about themselves (Lagna) may not be what others think of them (AL). Lagna and Arudha Lagna tell these two different stories.
• The 1st house, is the Arudha Lagna, it is rajasic (creating), but the natural karaka of the first house is Sun, so it is creating for good reasons.   
• Uccha AL lord brings high status, but if it is a malefic it brings high status problems. The status of the AL and its lord will affect the image you are creating in the world and how the world is treating you.
• Planets conjunct the AL has a tremendous influence on the person’s image, and what they do. Jupiter and Moon in the AL is best as it makes the person famous now and even after death.
• When other Arudhas conjunct AL, they get activated too. Ex:  A6 conjunct AL, disease or enemies also rise along with the person, which means that when others see/view/think of the native….the image of being sickly also rises in their mind; which has probably been formed due to his going to hospital often.  
• A crook, with an exalted AL lord will be well liked and rises in popularity.
• What is perceived is what is making things move, turn and happen.
• The A10 shows who, it is showing a person, how that person is perceived, and where they are being perceived from.
• If the A5 is damaged it can hurt the manifestation to have children.
• In this way, the AL represents the individual (Lagna) and how it is perceived.
• The circumstances of death are seen from the 3rd house from AL, it does have a physical reality to it. As a special ascendant it will give results both in the mind of others and how their minds react with the reality of the individual.  Both mental (perceived image) and physical results (interaction) are seen from the Arudha Lagna.
Our world is constantly under illusion and we form impressions about people that need not be correct. Arudha lagna shows this. If you want to judge a person's success in competition, you should prefer arudha lagna to lagna, as it is related to the illusion of the world.
Another explanation would be that, Lagna is the seat of truth and exposes the physical layer, while AL is the seat of illusion and shows the materialistic layer of life and perceptions.
The AL is more than just a perception; it is a point of relating to the world.
Thus, the houses from AL affect both the perception of the individual as well as how they actually act and are treated in the world.
The Lagna is like the Sun, the AL is like the Moon, and the Paka Lagna is like Jupiter; and is similar to the three eyes; the Sun (right eye), Moon (left eye) and Jupiter (third eye).
Arudha Lagna is the reflection of the self (how others perceive it). In D-1 it is the general perception about you, in the other D-charts it is always the perception in connection with that D-chart. Like AL in D-9 will show what kind of a husband you will be thought of. AL in D-10 will show how others perceive you in your career etc.
Upapada (A12 or UL) is seen for marriage and spouse in raasi, showing how others perceive her as your wife, and this may include you. However, the real connection will be seen from the 7th house. Going to D-9, this will more explicitly show how she is perceived in the married relationship. Seeing the UL in D-10 will show how your colleagues in work will perceive her. UL in D-20 will show how she will be perceived in your religious life, etc.



....to be continued.....



vivek and RishiRahul

Dear Rishi ji

Below are some doubts

• The Arudha Lagna, is of rajasic creation. Its natural karaka is Sun, so it is creating for good reasons.  
------ Earlier you mentioned natural karaka for padas is moon and now for AL sun , getting confused

• Uccha AL lord brings high status, but if it is a malefic it brings high status problems. The status of the AL and its lord will affect the image you are creating in the world and how the world is treating you.
------- Does the planet been uchha is all or does the planet, its placement in rashi and bhava too decide
         What i mean is if venus is exal and also AL lord does it bring high status in with relation to beauty or some thing or if mars with same condition gives status with respect to fighting related thing i mean gets high status in army or so
OR
does the bhava in which AL is placed brings high status with respect to that bhava
OR
does the bhava in which AL lord placed

Does the natural/functional malefic or benific should be considered

A request please do also explain with example charts

There is lot more i want to know will write down later

Regards

Swapnil