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prasanna
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:54 am |
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Namaskaar Vivekji,
From yesterday I am searching for the relevance of shasti thithi to surya chhath puja. But I could not . Today I found the beautiful post of our Govardhanji regarding the manifestation of various deities., in vedic astrology forum. Let me post the following here from that post. .
KARTIKEYA
Describing Kartikeya's manifestation and how his worship got associated with the auspicious day of shashthi,sage Mahatapa told king Prajapal-Once,a fierce battle was between the deities and demons in which the deities got defeated.The reason behind their defeat was the absence of an able commander who could lead them.The deities went to seek the help of lord Brahma.Being unable to solve their problem,lord Brahma took the deities to lord Shiva.
Lord Shiva invoked 'Shakti' present within his body and thus manifested lord Kartikeya.He was named after the six 'Kritikas' who had nurtured him by feeding their breast milk.Lord shiva then made Kartikeya the commander of the deities on the auspicious day of shashthi.Under his able leadership,the deities finally managed to defeat the demons.
A devotee who worships lord Kartikeya on shashthi enjoys prosperity and gets all his desire fulfilled. A childless couple must worship on this auspicious day to get blessed with a son.
LORD ADITYA
King Prajapal asked Mahatapa-"The thought of divine radiance taking the form of human radiance bewilders me.Please clear my doubts."
Sage Mahatapa replied -"When the almighty God willed to manifest himself in other tangible forms,an effulgence emanated from his being resulting into the creation of 'Surya'(The Sun).The whole world became illumined with Surya's radiance and all the deities dwelling within the body of Almighty God expressed their gratitude.Initially,unbearable heat emanated from 'Surya',causing great uncomfort to the deities but later on Almighty God reduced it to bearable limit at the request of the deities.Surya had manifested himself on the auspicious day of 'saptami' hence this particular day became deeply associated with the worship of Surya.
From this we can find out the importance of shasthi thithi and its association with lord Karthikeya. We all know in South India we observe Skanda shashti vrath on the same day when the Surya shashti vrath is observed in North India especially in Bihar and UP. This surya chat is not only related to shashti , it is continued in the next day Sapthami thithi too. Evening Argya is done on sunset on shashti and Morning Argya is done by the people on Sapthami thithi, during sunrise. . As I stayed in Bihar( Patna) for 3 years I happened to witness this festival for 3 continues years. Moreover we all know Ratha sapthami is celebrated all over India as Surya Jayanthi festival during January or February every year. So I see the relevance of Sapthami to Surya dev more than Shashti thithi. But still wondering why Surya shashti? Both this festivals, Skanda shashti and Surya shashti falls on karthik maas , when karthik star and shashti thithi combines together every year. This is the time we witness the onset of winter season. More over the star Karthik is the star of Surya. So I feel, Surya shashti is related to karthik star which falls on the same day of shashti. So Lord Karthikeya and Surya are worshiped on the same day . This is my own assumption and I dont know whether Iam rite or not.
In your earlier post you have written, 'Kaal chakra is the base for all the remedial measures, specially those advised in the various Nadi granthas". So , by worshiping the relevant deities on the auspicious thithi 's and Nakshthras , we come to know , one can get blessings of different deities , who are all the inseparable form of Lord Hari or Vishnu. .
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mysbcrs
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:56 am |
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Namaskaar Vivekji,
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| My query was on the Tithi of worship. Likewise i think Lord Kartikeya is also worshipped on a Shasthi. |
Sorry, forgot that Su entering last paad of Chitta may not happen on the shasti always. But as you pointed out, Ve opposite to Su lords over Shasti. May be (just a thought) the puja is for Su (invoking the strength of lord of the place where he will be in fall, of-course ultimately for our own good!) rather than praying to Su.
Also your remark on Karthikeya and Goverdhanji's post on various deities shows that the thithis and planets are not aligned to those principles as well. For e.g, shashti being auspicious for worshipping Karthikeya, I would have expected Mangal to be in place of Shukra.
CRS
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vivekvshetty
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:25 pm |
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Namaskaar Prasanna ji,
Yes! as usual great knowledge from Govardhan ji.
We wont be going too much into the remedial aspect of Jyotish for this course because for the simple reason that one has to have the ability to predict or even postdict (if there is a better word, i am unaware) an event and the Graha/s giving the problem, before recommending any remedies.
SO we will save it for later.
For those in a hurry, there is always the Kaalachakra diagram to meditate on.
RishiRahul and vivek.
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Namaskaar Vivekji,
From yesterday I am searching for the relevance of shasti thithi to surya chhath puja. But I could not . Today I found the beautiful post of our Govardhanji regarding the manifestation of various deities., in vedic astrology forum. Let me post the following here from that post. .
KARTIKEYA
Describing Kartikeya's manifestation and how his worship got associated with the auspicious day of shashthi,sage Mahatapa told king Prajapal-Once,a fierce battle was between the deities and demons in which the deities got defeated.The reason behind their defeat was the absence of an able commander who could lead them.The deities went to seek the help of lord Brahma.Being unable to solve their problem,lord Brahma took the deities to lord Shiva.
Lord Shiva invoked 'Shakti' present within his body and thus manifested lord Kartikeya.He was named after the six 'Kritikas' who had nurtured him by feeding their breast milk.Lord shiva then made Kartikeya the commander of the deities on the auspicious day of shashthi.Under his able leadership,the deities finally managed to defeat the demons.
A devotee who worships lord Kartikeya on shashthi enjoys prosperity and gets all his desire fulfilled. A childless couple must worship on this auspicious day to get blessed with a son.
LORD ADITYA
King Prajapal asked Mahatapa-"The thought of divine radiance taking the form of human radiance bewilders me.Please clear my doubts."
Sage Mahatapa replied -"When the almighty God willed to manifest himself in other tangible forms,an effulgence emanated from his being resulting into the creation of 'Surya'(The Sun).The whole world became illumined with Surya's radiance and all the deities dwelling within the body of Almighty God expressed their gratitude.Initially,unbearable heat emanated from 'Surya',causing great uncomfort to the deities but later on Almighty God reduced it to bearable limit at the request of the deities.Surya had manifested himself on the auspicious day of 'saptami' hence this particular day became deeply associated with the worship of Surya.
From this we can find out the importance of shasthi thithi and its association with lord Karthikeya. We all know in South India we observe Skanda shashti vrath on the same day when the Surya shashti vrath is observed in North India especially in Bihar and UP. This surya chat is not only related to shashti , it is continued in the next day Sapthami thithi too. Evening Argya is done on sunset on shashti and Morning Argya is done by the people on Sapthami thithi, during sunrise. . As I stayed in Bihar( Patna) for 3 years I happened to witness this festival for 3 continues years. Moreover we all know Ratha sapthami is celebrated all over India as Surya Jayanthi festival during January or February every year. So I see the relevance of Sapthami to Surya dev more than Shashti thithi. But still wondering why Surya shashti? Both this festivals, Skanda shashti and Surya shashti falls on karthik maas , when karthik star and shashti thithi combines together every year. This is the time we witness the onset of winter season. More over the star Karthik is the star of Surya. So I feel, Surya shashti is related to karthik star which falls on the same day of shashti. So Lord Karthikeya and Surya are worshiped on the same day . This is my own assumption and I dont know whether Iam rite or not.
In your earlier post you have written, 'Kaal chakra is the base for all the remedial measures, specially those advised in the various Nadi granthas". So , by worshiping the relevant deities on the auspicious thithi 's and Nakshthras , we come to know , one can get blessings of different deities , who are all the inseparable form of Lord Hari or Vishnu. .
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vivekvshetty
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:21 am |
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Namaskaar all,
Now if we combine the two Chakras together, may be a few things will get more clearer.
The attachment is of an image by Sarajit Poddar, Another Jyotish Guru from SJC.
RishiRahul and vivek.
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mysbcrs
Age: 51 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:12 pm |
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Namaskaar Vivekji,
Sorry for going back on this topic. I have a few doubts.
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The Wheel of Time moves and the Axel does not move, the wheel is the territory of the Divine mother, this is her game field and we all are turned, twisted or tossed aside by here divine play.The upward direction of the axel are the Heavens or the upper Lokas ( Bhuvar, Swarga, Mahar, Janah, Tapah and Satya).
the Vertical downward direction of the Axel are the Tala (the nether world) we have to keep clear from this. |
While the eight grahas rule elements of time, reference to upward and downward direction appear to be unrelated to time. They are of-course relevant for dik-chakra. Essentially, I could not understand what we mean by upward/downward wrt to time.
CRS
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