[quote="RishiRahul"]Namashkaar Ramanji,

When the Rishis alloted meanings for divisional charts, they thought of everything.

Although 7th. house is Marriage, they alloted 9th. as they felt that Marriage and Dharma should be placed in a similar category, as Marriage is Dharma itself.

They placed D7 for children... it being the  'True' Fruit of Marriage.

D24 relates to formal and informal education.  12 house is important here because it stands for spirituality and meditation.
To attain proper education (formal and informal), we have to be 'devoted', for which proper/deep 'concentration' and 'meditation' is required.

Now we are going more into the'minds' of the 'Rishis'.

We hope we have been clear.

vivek and RishiRahul[/quote]

Dear Rishirahul ji,
Thank you for replying.I do understand what u r saying here but i was asking bout conditions when we r dealing with sumone from place where u dnt need to have a mariage to have kids.
You dnt need to have a marriage to have a relationship.

Sex is not a criteria for havings kids(test tube babies).

So will we still consider D-9 for mariage and D-7 for kids there.

Regards,
Raman

Dear Vivek ji,
I forgot to reply to ur message.
May be you r right.My knowledge may not be as good as your and thus may b u r right about definition
of NITNEM.
Niyam i think u r definetely able to put its meaning in much better way than me coz thats wat i actually meant.
But i m not sure about definition of NIT.What i always thought of it was NIT means everyday or regularly...

I remember reading that "Hume NIT din subah uth ke bhagwan ka nam lena chahiya"(We shud take almighty's name EVERYDAY(nit) after waking up in morning).

But I may wrong.
Thanking you
Raman

Namaskaar Raman ji,
the Bhaava which preceeds the Lagna is the !2th.

RishiRahul and vivek.

quote="Raman Deep Singh"]Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahul ji,
Back to my question.
I think D-12 is mainly related to parents because  since we r talking about parents we shud  consider 4th house(mother) +9th house(father) = 12.Thus D-12 is given more importance to understand about parents or we can more about spiritual/deeper meaning of parents in our life rather than superficial or external level.

Also 1 reason which i can understand is that since 12th house is very much related to Moksha and in many places it is mentioned that serving parents(mom +  dad)is also the way to attain Moksha thus D-12 has got more to do with parents/Moksha.

This wat i have understood.Please rectify me and make me understand better.

Regards,
Raman[/quote]

Dear Vivek ji,
Thank you for your reply..Can you be bit more elaborate about what you said.
But before you tell me to,let me write my understanding
Because parents r the result of anyone's birth thus they r to be considered from D-12 i.ie just before creation of lagna(i.e.before trueself of a native)

In easier words they become reason for creation of a native(lagna)after distruction of body(12th house)of native in previous birth.

I did to reply yesterday but i think something is seriously wrong with Database of mysticboard
Regards,
Raman

Namaskaar Raman ji,
An example will make it clearer as you are very close to the understanding. Suppose Meena is the Lagna then, just before it ascended, kumbha was the Lagna. Now when meena was rising kumbha went to the twelfth Bhaava. So we may say that the twelfth Bhaava represents the collective past from the moment just before the Jaatak's birth and for everyone of us the past associated with our parents is the most important. This has a very important effect on the person's life.
Now what about the D-24?

rishirahul and vivek.