Lesson - 14. AMSHA KUNDALIS, Mysticism, reading, forums, Numerology, Sun Signs, Divination

Posts: 146 · Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:32 pm

Dear Rishiji and Vivek ji,

I asked this question because in this situation where jupiter is 8th lord , retrograde and situated in 7th house ...which says a curse from previous life ...a karmic debt....so does this vargottam position mitigates this curse or strengthens it.I read somewhere 8th lord retrograde gives curse beyond the capabilities of remedies to work on or for.

I dont know why do I felt that it shud be strengthening curse but when I read the blessings on vargottama as mentioned by vivekji...then it felt blessings always nullify the curses so may be initially a damage from curse and then eventually tapering off the evil influence.

Regards

Posts: 4427 · Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:06 am

Certain wrote:

Rsihirahul ji, I know my endeavour gets misinterpreted for ego , i havent any actually, my living in west actually keeps confusing me here and there, Sometimes It doesnt occur to me whom I am talking to and what kind of address wud be apt (ill effect of multi tasking actually).I am sorry for any kind of off-track behaviour if I have ever shown unknowingly.
I am spiritually a down to earth person. And please pardon me for future too because i might land up doing it again though I wud try best not to do it again.Life changes a person attitude towards many things.Here in West we call name of a person without any form of respect but deep inside heart we respect them a lot even when it doesnt show up with any kind of verbal phrase.In India, even after many superficial phrases of respect people inside heart dont respect elders.
I am exposed to many cultures here so somehow have started believing that eventualy what lies in heart matters , rest is conditioning, that is probably that is what lands up showing here and there.
Anyways I am sorry about anything i did ,landed up hurting anyone.

I have one more query , and that is what if this vargottam jupiter is retrograde in D1 , wud it alter or improve the status of Jupiter.

Namashkaar Certainji,

No! it is that we meant. It is just that 'Sir' in the LEARNING forum would not be perfectly proper.

We would wish anything from your true feelings.

Vargottama Jupiter in D1 is like a confirmation that Vargottama Jupiter is there... meaning such a native gets the effects of vargottama Jupiter in 7th house strongly.

Such a Jupiter is very much concerned about right and wrong in life/marriage as those issues come up in their life often.

Curses are an advanced topic and we will come to it later.

vivek and RishiRahul

Posts: 4427 · Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:22 am

gaonkarswapnil wrote:

Dear Rishi ji and Vivek ji

As said to try about leo lagna below is my thinking

In D1 chart it is in 7th kumbha native may have interactions with knowledgeable peoples or he may be liking intellectual type of company here i mention about kumbha which also denotes pot of knowledge Guru also lord of 5th and 8th here which may be not good as it is 3rd from 5th and 12th from 8th but guru in shani rashi is good , guru also has dristi on lagna , 3rd and 11th here

For D9 it may be like native intellectually handles kama things as it is in 7th and dristi on lagna, 3rd and 11th

Since lagna and guru is vargottam he may be intelligent and may be blessed with long life (As mentioned by vivek ji in previous post)

Guru drisiti on 11th mithun may be good and 3rd tula may be not good

Pls comment if my understanding is right or wrong

Regards

Swapnil

Namashkaar Swapnilji,

The lesson is on Vargottama and its understanding, in regard to amshas.

Guru is about wisdom and truth (right/wrong and the like).

Although it is not prt of the present topic. Why is Guru's aspect on Tula bad?

vivek and RishiRahul

Posts: 146 · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:15 am

RishiRahul wrote:

Namashkaar Certainji,

No! it is that we meant. It is just that 'Sir' in the LEARNING forum would not be perfectly proper.

We would wish anything from your true feelings.

Vargottama Jupiter in D1 is like a confirmation that Vargottama Jupiter is there... meaning such a native gets the effects of vargottama Jupiter in 7th house strongly.

Such a Jupiter is very much concerned about right and wrong in life/marriage as those issues come up in their life often.

Curses are an advanced topic and we will come to it later.

vivek and RishiRahul

Ji Rishurahul ji, I get your point.Thanks a lot for elaborating about vargottama jupiter too.

Posts: 961 · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:49 pm

Namaskaar SG ji,
Where did you read that this constitutes a curse?
Why should it show some curse?
Vargottama is a blessing ( we repeat ourselves again) due to a deity and is said to give the guna of the graha. This guna is a contributing factor to the natives name and fame. Nothing more, nothing less.
This vargottama graha may be involved in many other yogas in a chart but the result of vargottama is not altered, nor does the vargottama alter the result of the other yogas it is involved in.

RishiRahul and vivek.

Certain wrote:

Dear Rishiji and Vivek ji,

I asked this question because in this situation where jupiter is 8th lord , retrograde and situated in 7th house ...which says a curse from previous life ...a karmic debt....so does this vargottam position mitigates this curse or strengthens it.I read somewhere 8th lord retrograde gives curse beyond the capabilities of remedies to work on or for.

I dont know why do I felt that it shud be strengthening curse but when I read the blessings on vargottama as mentioned by vivekji...then it felt blessings always nullify the curses so may be initially a damage from curse and then eventually tapering off the evil influence.

Regards