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vivekvshetty


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Namaskaar Raman ji,
We are glad that you understand, most would be put off by this way of approach. the reason for this is many like to be spoon fed and are happy not using the 'Dhi' for themselves.
but when the time for feild test comes many are found weak kneed and look for support when they should be the support of the person who has come to them for guidance.
There are so many things we planned initially at the start of this course, but such a poor participation puts us on our backfoot (some of the blame lies on us too for giving lessons after huge gaps! but this is unavoidable as we are also tied up with making a living and this is not by doing Jyotish btw). Like see this very important lesson and see how many people have veiwed it and the response it has got.

RishiRahul and vivek.

Raman Deep Singh wrote:
Thank you Vivek ji for as usual answering my question with your question .I really appreciate u and rishirahul ji for giving answer this way i.e. by making questioner answer his question on his own.
I will try to answer this ASAP.

Regards,
Raman
Raman Deep Singh
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Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahulji,
In Sikh we do sumthing which is called as "NITNEM"which is combination of 2 words:- NIT + NIYAM.Nit stands for regularly and Niyam stands for Discipline.Nitnem is combination of 5 paaths or prayers that u read,Same thing everyday regularly.The reason behind it(according to my little understanding and whatever i hav read till now)is that even if you manage to understand 1% of it at any point or time while reading it regularly,you will manage to understand a very small part of almighty.You actually get closer to understanding purpose of your life.

It is said by KN Rao that there r more than 20 million Shlokas written for astrology in india.If you manage to understand even 10% of it you play your part quite well.

Lord Vaman took just 3 steps to cover 3 lokas.That is less than 1/1000th of our steps per day.

IGNOU got much more students than IIT and IIM

What im trying to put here is that it is all about very small amount and percentage people try to cover.
Similarly even if small %age of your teaching gets across and makes us understand jyotish may be your purpose is solved

Vivek ji as i always believe that everything and evreryone has got pros and cons.When you put lessons fast people say u r very fast.When u put lesons slow people say u r very slow.

When you dont put them people say you dont wanna share and when u put it people say u r showing off:-).I hav read this long time ago that best way of failure is to make everyone happy.Here I am not trying to be offensive towards anyone or criticise.

Moreover since people r not asking question please dont think that they r not understanding what u r talking about,may b they r satisfied with whatever view you r putting.
Look at the views your and rishirahul ji's lesons has got,lesson 5 has got around 9000 views and you can understand how important that leson is.thus u can c that people r readong and going thru your lessons but probably they r liking whatever both of you say and write.

I hope you realise that people do feel weired asking questions and get conscious before asking them.

Please do keep on writting.Everyone do wanna learn n understand this divine science.

Regards,
Raman
vivekvshetty


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Namaskaar Raman ji,
A huge Thank you for making us aware of the other side of the coin. We appreciate it. This will keep us going many steps.
BTW 'Nit' means eternal, we think and Niyam means limits we make or accept for over selves and do not cross.

RishiRahul and vivek.

Raman Deep Singh wrote:
Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahulji,
In Sikh we do sumthing which is called as "NITNEM"which is combination of 2 words:- NIT + NIYAM.Nit stands for regularly and Niyam stands for Discipline.Nitnem is combination of 5 paaths or prayers that u read,Same thing everyday regularly.The reason behind it(according to my little understanding and whatever i hav read till now)is that even if you manage to understand 1% of it at any point or time while reading it regularly,you will manage to understand a very small part of almighty.You actually get closer to understanding purpose of your life.

It is said by KN Rao that there r more than 20 million Shlokas written for astrology in india.If you manage to understand even 10% of it you play your part quite well.

Lord Vaman took just 3 steps to cover 3 lokas.That is less than 1/1000th of our steps per day.

IGNOU got much more students than IIT and IIM

What im trying to put here is that it is all about very small amount and percentage people try to cover.
Similarly even if small %age of your teaching gets across and makes us understand jyotish may be your purpose is solved

Vivek ji as i always believe that everything and evreryone has got pros and cons.When you put lessons fast people say u r very fast.When u put lesons slow people say u r very slow.

When you dont put them people say you dont wanna share and when u put it people say u r showing off:-).I hav read this long time ago that best way of failure is to make everyone happy.Here I am not trying to be offensive towards anyone or criticise.

Moreover since people r not asking question please dont think that they r not understanding what u r talking about,may b they r satisfied with whatever view you r putting.
Look at the views your and rishirahul ji's lesons has got,lesson 5 has got around 9000 views and you can understand how important that leson is.thus u can c that people r readong and going thru your lessons but probably they r liking whatever both of you say and write.

I hope you realise that people do feel weired asking questions and get conscious before asking them.

Please do keep on writting.Everyone do wanna learn n understand this divine science.

Regards,
Raman
Lesson 14 on Amsha Kundali... continued..
RishiRahul
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Certain groups in which all divisional charts are not considered and tradition shows the use of each grouping for a particular purpose

                           Varga or Amsha Schemes
1)Shadvarga (six varga scheme): This group consists of Raashi, Horaa, Drekkana, Navaamsha, Dwaadashaamsha andTrimshaamsha. This is used in Prashna or Horary Astrology.

2)Sapta varga (seven varga scheme): All the divisional charts of the Shadvarga scheme plus the Saptaamsha. This is used in Muhuratha (electional Astrology) and in mundane predictions (predictions about nations, world, rains, earthquakes etc.).

3)Dashavarga (ten varga scheme): in addition to the varga charts used in the Saptaamsha scheme Dashaamsha, Shodashaamsha and Shashtyaamsha charts are used. This is used in natal horoscopy or what is called the birth chart of living beings.

4)Shodashavarga Scheme: This contains all the sixteen divisional charts taught by Paraashara and was in the old days used only for Royalty but is today used for everyone.  

                               Some points to remember
1.Divisional charts show the internal aspect of a particular facet of life of the jaataka (native), whereas the Raashi chart (D-1) shows the external manifestation.

2.Divisional charts give depth to our understanding of the problems that are not visible externally. This helps us to have a multi dimensional understanding of the person and the problems. Thus we can go closer to the root of a problem and give much better advice.

3.Many a times the things shown in a divisional chart overrides the reading from a Raashi chart.

4.Each division of a Divisional chart has a particular deity and these are not only useful for remedial measures (The most important part of Jyotish, otherwise Jyotish becomes meaningless) but also help to understand the undercurrents of a Graha placed in a particular Amsha.

5.Divisional charts represent a very important concept of life – All life grows in spiral or everything in this universe has spiral motion (Ever tried to visualize Chandra’s motion around the Earths ecliptic?). That is why a Chart is called a Kundali in Jyotish.
Methodology of calculating a Divisional chart:
We have already seen how the Zodiac is divded into the multiples of 12 i.e. 360/ (12 x n). This is the same as dividing each Raashi by the same multiplier ‘n’. say for example D – 2 or Horaa chart is 12x 2 or 24 divisions of the Zodiac. This is the same as dividing a whole raashi of 30 degrees into two parts of 15 degrees each.
Another example: D-9 or Navaamsha or Dharmaamsha is 360 / (12 x 9), this is the same as dividing a whole Raashi by 9. Dividing 30 degrees by 9 we get 3 deg. 20 min. Each division is again a Raashi, thus there are Raashis within Raashis.
There are different methods of counting the Raashis in the divisions (each division is again a Raashi, thus there are Raashis within Raashis). The standard method is of sequential counting. There are other methods of allotting raashis which are irregular or mathematical.
As an example the Navaamshas in Mesha will start from Mesha and end in Dhanu, then Vrishabha will have Navaamsha  starting from Makara and end in Kanyaa. Say Shukra is in 10 deg. 46 min. of mesha so it is in the 4th Navaamsha in Mesha raashi. Counting four from Mesha we get Karka and so when drawing up a Navaamsha chart we put Shukra in Mesha. Thus other Grahas are also noted down in the Navamshaa Chakra.
If it sounds too complicated for now, don’t worry. We will be taking up the method of drawing each Amsha Kundali separately and given detailed explanations of the calculation involved with examples.

                        Drawback of reading an Amsha Kundali.
Many of the higher divisional charts are very sensitive to time changes so a very accurate birth time is desirable but hardly encountered. Which means that, if the time of birth is not accurate then (even a difference of a couple of minutes) it will change the whole complexion of the divisional chart. The Lagna will change very fast in Divisional charts and so the reading of a chart with a wrong Lagna will not match the actual events.

                                                 To be continued:

vivek and RishiRahul


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Raman Deep Singh
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Dear Vivek ji and Rishirahul ji,
Back to my question.
I think D-12 is mainly related to parents because  since we r talking about parents we shud  consider 4th house(mother) +9th house(father) = 12.Thus D-12 is given more importance to understand about parents or we can more about spiritual/deeper meaning of parents in our life rather than superficial or external level.

Also 1 reason which i can understand is that since 12th house is very much related to Moksha and in many places it is mentioned that serving parents(mom +  dad)is also the way to attain Moksha thus D-12 has got more to do with parents/Moksha.

This wat i have understood.Please rectify me and make me understand better.

Regards,
Raman
Lesson - 14. AMSHA KUNDALIS
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