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lesson 13 -------- Naisargika Mitra or Shatru: Natural Friends and enemies
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Naisargika Mitra or Shatru: Natural Friends and enemies

Every Graha treats the other Grahas as its friend or an enemy.

Each Graha has a Moolatrikona Raashi. The Moolatrikona is the office of the Graha. The list of Moolatrikona Raashi is given in the Graha lesson.
The Lords of the Raashis in Upachaya Sthaanas and also in the seventh, from the Moolatrikona of a Graha are enemies.
We know the Upachaya Sthaanas to be the 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th
The Lords of the rest of the Raashis are friendly to the Graha.

An Example will make this clear.
Suryas Moolatrikona is Simha. From Simha the upachayas are Tula, Makara, Vrishabha and Mithuna. The Seventh Raashi is Kumbha.
Therefore the lords of these Raashis are enemies to Surya.
They are Shukra, Shani and Budha.
The lords of rest of the Raashis will be friends of Surya. They are Budha, Mangal, Guru and Chandra.
We see from the above that Budha is an enemy as well as friend of Surya and hence it becomes Nuetral.
Thus Surya will treat Shukra, Shani (Raahu also because of its co lordship of Kumbha) as enemies.
It will treat Mangal (Ketu also because of the co lordship of Vrischika) as friend
And it will treat Budha either as a Friend or an enemy depending on the Raashi supported by Budha, more among the two Raashis owned by it.

To judge which Raashi is more supported by a Graha who becomes Nuetral, we judge by the following steps.

A) If the Graha is placed in one of the two Raashis owned by it, then it will favor the Raashi and the final friendship/enmity will be decided by that Raashi.
Say for example For Surya we have found Budha to be Nuertal but, if it is placed in Mithuna which is an Upachaya from Simha (the Moolatrikona of Surya) then Surya will treat Budha as an enemy.
If Budha, on the other hand is placed in Kanya then Surya will treat Budha as a friend.

B) If the neutral Graha is placed in the seventh from any of the Raashis owned by it then also it will favor that Raashi more.
Say for example: Budha is placed in Meena. This is seventh from Kanya and so it favors Kanya more than Mithuna and hence Surya will treat Budha as a friend.

C) If the Neutral Graha is neither placed in one of the Raashi owned by it nor in the seventh from one of them then it will favor the Raashi which is of a different oddity from the Raashi it is placed in.
For example Budha is placed in Simha and Simha being an odd Raashi (Visham Raashi) Budha will favor Kanya more than Mithuna because Kanya is an even Raashi (Sama Raashi).

Thus we can find the Friendships and enmities of all the Grahas taking special care as when a Graha becomes Nuetral.

It is best for the Learner to find the friends and enemies of each Graha. It is better than looking up a ready table.

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Chandra has moolatrikona in Vrishabha and Kark falls in the third therefrom and hence becomes an enemy, Can a Graha be its own enemy?
Otherwise it has no enemies.


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Amongst the Bhaavas the seventh from the Moolatrikona is the most hated and this Raashi will be a problematic area for the native.

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Dear Rishirahul ji,

This means that if lagna is same as moolltrikona for planet placed in it . For example  Sun in Leo in lagna(lets consider it to be in same degree which is required by sun to take leo as its mooltrikona and not own raashi or Swa-raashi) then it means that
the native will always have problem with his married life or spouse and problem will increase if 7th lord is placed in lagna which will opposite to general  belief that if lagna lord and 7th lord are placed in lagana then it gives good effect.

Any relation of Sun(in the case im considering)with 7th lord or 7th house will coz problem. This also means that native will have problem with his/her business partner.

Please explain this. Also explain your previous question. I am not able to answet that. Coz i think for Tauras lagna 3rd house that is house owned by moon (Cancer) should not be bad coz it is owned by moon itself which is placed in tauras lagna i.e. its exhalted house.

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Namashkaar Ramanji,

In the above posts, which is thepresent thread, we are discussing about........... a way of finding the 'NARURAL' or 'Naisargik' friendships and enmities of all the Grahas.

When we bring in the Lagna factor into it we are not discussing about the NATURAL or NAISARGIK relations anymore, but are shifting to predictive areas.

Hope you are clear about the above.

Now, answering your query would mean... of not talking of the Naisargik relations anymore.....But it is a related question.

Your Questions =

(Q1)What happens when "lagna is same as moolltrikona for planet placed in it . For example  Sun in Leo in lagna, where Sun is in (lets consider it to be in same degree which is required by sun to take leo as its mooltrikona and not own raashi or Swa-raashi) then it means that the native will always have problem with his married life or spouse and problem will increase if 7th lord is placed in lagna which will opposite to general  belief that if lagna lord and 7th lord are placed in lagana then it gives good effect.

ANSWER= Firstly, Sun's Moolatrikona is Leo...anywhere in Leo...no degrees determine perfect moolatrikonas, as we in case of
debilitation/exaltation.



(Q2) Coz i think for Tauras lagna 3rd house that is house owned by moon (Cancer) should not be bad coz it is owned by moon itself which is placed in tauras lagna i.e. its exhalted house....is not understood.

ANSWER= The Lords of the Raashis in Upachaya Sthaanas and also in the seventh, from the Moolatrikona of a Graha are enemies. We know the Upachaya Sthaanas to be the 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th. The Lords of the rest of the Raashis are friendly to the Graha.
Exceptions to the above formulae is:=When the upachaya rasi becomes the same planet. For example Chandra has moolatrikona in Vrishabha and Kark falls in the third therefrom and hence becomes an enemy, Can a Graha be its own enemy? Otherwise it has no enemies.
You are getting mixed up and getting Lagna into your question and again.

Hope you understand now? If there are any unfinished answers, you could ask them again.


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