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vivekvshetty


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Raman Deep Singh wrote:
Dear Rishirahul ji,

This means that if lagna is same as moolltrikona for planet placed in it . For example  Sun in Leo in lagna(lets consider it to be in same degree which is required by sun to take leo as its mooltrikona and not own raashi or Swa-raashi) then it means that
the native will always have problem with his married life or spouse and problem will increase if 7th lord is placed in lagna which will opposite to general  belief that if lagna lord and 7th lord are placed in lagana then it gives good effect.

Any relation of Sun(in the case im considering)with 7th lord or 7th house will coz problem. This also means that native will have problem with his/her business partner.

Please explain this. Also explain your previous question. I am not able to answet that. Coz i think for Tauras lagna 3rd house that is house owned by moon (Cancer) should not be bad coz it is owned by moon itself which is placed in tauras lagna i.e. its exhalted house.

Raman


Namaskaar Ramanji,
Learning or teaching Jyotish in a Hapazard is not our aim and neither should it be yours.
Understanding of any principle of Jyotish has many stages.
Reading or getting to know about it.
Trying to find out why and how the principle was formulated.
Trying to guess the usage and where it can be used and how it is to be used.
The principle may not be for using at all places.
Otherwise it will be all a very confusing subject to study (what to say of applying).

Coming to the lesson- why do you think Naisargika friendship and enmities or reckoned from the moolatrikona Raashis?
 
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Dear Vivek and Rishirahul ji,

I did consider lagna for this understanding of natural friendship bcoz it can be one of the considerations during prediction but i think u r right rishirahul ji that first we should learn everything before jumping on to predictive part...

Secondly,I have read in quite a books for example by KN Rao ji and PVR Narasimha Raoji that Mooltrikona is judged according to degreee forexample :- Leo is mooltrikona for Sun till 20 degree and after that become i.e. 20-30 drgree it gives effect of Own house.....

Vivek ji im not trying to run faster than the lessons, i do understand that my approach towards any thought or rule should be very systematic to understand and grasp that rule fully....My main purpose to ask question was to understand how we will go about understanding the enemity and friendship between planets going by their signs , may it be lagna or AL etc....Coz i want to understand how we will consider it in our understanding of relationship and use it.....


About mooltrikona question,recently i did ask this question in this thread..




Please do explain....

Thanking you
Raman
vivekvshetty


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Raman Deep Singh wrote:
Dear Vivek and Rishirahul ji,

I did consider lagna for this understanding of natural friendship bcoz it can be one of the considerations during prediction but i think u r right rishirahul ji that first we should learn everything before jumping on to predictive part...

Secondly,I have read in quite a books for example by KN Rao ji and PVR Narasimha Raoji that Mooltrikona is judged according to degreee forexample :- Leo is mooltrikona for Sun till 20 degree and after that become i.e. 20-30 drgree it gives effect of Own house.....

Vivek ji im not trying to run faster than the lessons, i do understand that my approach towards any thought or rule should be very systematic to understand and grasp that rule fully....My main purpose to ask question was to understand how we will go about understanding the enemity and friendship between planets going by their signs , may it be lagna or AL etc....Coz i want to understand how we will consider it in our understanding of relationship and use it.....


About mooltrikona question,recently i did ask this question in this thread..




Please do explain....

Thanking you
Raman


Namaskaar raman ji,
we would like if you give your understanding first on the moolatrikona thing. We know, you dont expect to be spoon fed.

RishiRahul and vivek.
Raman Deep Singh
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Dear Vivek ji,
 you r right i dont expect to be spoon fed, though i did think of a probable answer but thought lets ask rather then making guesses.....

According to me  and as per what i have read :-  Since it is thought that When in Mooltrikona planet is like in its office unlike in exhaltation, own house etc.. state...Thus he is behaving more responsibily and sincerely and not like in Exhalted state where it is more like in most happy and excited state , For example(im using example from this forum i have read about a while ago not sure who wrote it)in exhalted state it is like an happy elephant taking bath in river thus behaving more naturally. In Mooltrikona state it is like leading his fellow elephants and guiding them though the forest thus he knows whats right and whats wrong and has to behave more responsibly. He know which ways can create problem(ENEMIES) for his fellows and dependents,For which he can take chances(NEUTRAL PLANETS) and which ways he can be sure of(FRIENDS).Since being in the state of office he has to take decision more thoughtfully and can taken for granted only those things and facts which are permanent

This is what i feel to be a reason for considering naisargik relationship of planets from Mooltrikona.

I hope i havent disappointed you .

Regards,
Raman
vivekvshetty


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Raman Deep Singh wrote:
Dear Vivek ji,
 you r right i dont expect to be spoon fed, though i did think of a probable answer but thought lets ask rather then making guesses.....

According to me  and as per what i have read :-  Since it is thought that When in Mooltrikona planet is like in its office unlike in exhaltation, own house etc.. state...Thus he is behaving more responsibily and sincerely and not like in Exhalted state where it is more like in most happy and excited state , For example(im using example from this forum i have read about a while ago not sure who wrote it)in exhalted state it is like an happy elephant taking bath in river thus behaving more naturally. In Mooltrikona state it is like leading his fellow elephants and guiding them though the forest thus he knows whats right and whats wrong and has to behave more responsibly. He know which ways can create problem(ENEMIES) for his fellows and dependents,For which he can take chances(NEUTRAL PLANETS) and which ways he can be sure of(FRIENDS).Since being in the state of office he has to take decision more thoughtfully and can taken for granted only those things and facts which are permanent

This is what i feel to be a reason for considering naisargik relationship of planets from Mooltrikona.

I hope i havent disappointed you .

Regards,
Raman

Namaskaar Raman ji,
we are sure no one is disappointed. it was a bulls eye reply.
the elephant illustration was given w.r.t Guru's exalation. Ofcourse this can be suitably extended to the other Grahas.
But why the Upachayas and the seventh from the office of the Graha? What makes the Graha treat these places as enemies?
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