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Posts: 798 · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:56 pm

Namaskaar Deepak ji,
Apply these principles and see.
1. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from the Bhaava to see the resources of a Bhaava itself

2. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from Lagna to see whether a person will experience the resources of a Bhaava.

If a bhaava lord is well placed from the bhaava itself, then we can well use intelligence RELATED to that bhaava, our decisions are good. If a bhaava lord is well placed from Lagna, then such decisions are good for us, whatever the resources of a bhaava are.
You are on the right track but a long way to go.
Rishirahul and vivek.

deepakosho wrote:

Namaste Vivek ji / Rahul ji,

Can the following be valid?

E.g.1) if a person with taurus lagna has venus in 8th and jupiter is placed in 12th aries, this will reduce the longevity. (here Jupiter's dhirsti on lagna lord will come as little saviour)

E.g.2) if a person with capricorn lagna has saturn in 12th and its lord jupiter in 8th leo, this will increase his losses and wont get good sleep. (here again Jupiter's dhirsti on lagna lord will come as little saviour)

E.g.3) if a person with scorpio lagna has mars in 8th Gemini and mercury is placed in 6th aries, the person faces lot of obstacles.

E.g.4) if a person with aquarius lagna has saturn placed in gemini and mercury is placed in karka then the persons children become his enemy. On the positive side, the 8th lord mercury going to 6th means he has no obstacles.

Is my understanding on the right track?

Om Tat Sat
Deepak

Posts: 47 · Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:09 pm

vivekvshetty wrote:

Namaskaar Deepak ji,
Apply these principles and see.
1. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from the Bhaava to see the resources of a Bhaava itself
2. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from Lagna to see whether a person will experience the resources of a Bhaava.

Based on the above principle, is the following understanding valid?.....

For Pisces Lagna if Mercury is in 8th bhaava then,
The person has a good spouse (7th lord in second from 7th house, which is the house of resources)
But the person does not experience a good married life (7th lord in eighth from lagna).

Om Tat Sat.
Deepak

Posts: 798 · Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:19 pm

Namaskaar Deepak ji,
First of all Seventh in D-1 is not the spouse but the idea or a better word would be the concept of marriage that the native has. You see each one of us has our own take about the institution of marriage, this is what the seventh bhaava (we cannot stress enough on the word bhaava, Bhaavanaa) shows.
Eight is the maaraka (terminator if we may use the word) of the seventh so what resourses are we talking about?
The Paaka of the seventh is the eight, so how is the intelligence working as regards to partnerships of all forms?
Eight from lagna shows what? Debts, illhealth etc. So what is the experience of the Native as regards the Seventh lord?
What is the meaning of Lagna?
RishiRahul and vivek.

deepakosho wrote:

vivekvshetty wrote:

Namaskaar Deepak ji,
Apply these principles and see.
1. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from the Bhaava to see the resources of a Bhaava itself
2. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from Lagna to see whether a person will experience the resources of a Bhaava.

Based on the above principle, is the following understanding valid?.....

For Pisces Lagna if Mercury is in 8th bhaava then,
The person has a good spouse (7th lord in second from 7th house, which is the house of resources)
But the person does not experience a good married life (7th lord in eighth from lagna).

Om Tat Sat.
Deepak

Posts: 47 · Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:20 pm

I think I picked a wrong example considering spouse for 7th house. While actually 7th house shows the attitude towards one's marriage. Sorry for the confusion.

vivekvshetty wrote:

Eight is the maaraka (terminator if we may use the word) of the seventh so what resourses are we talking about?
The Paaka of the seventh is the eight, so how is the intelligence working as regards to partnerships of all forms? Eight from lagna shows what? Debts, illhealth etc. So what is the experience of the Native as regards the Seventh lord?

If 7th lord goes to 8th (in D1) it is very bad, because Maaraka lord goes to house of Disease. So 7th lord will give disease to the native. Here 7th lord gives resources to the 7th house (in the form of disease).

I am trying to co-relate Bhavat-bhavam (2nd is the house of resource) and the general priciple you mentioned "1. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from the Bhaava to see the resources of a Bhaava itself. 2. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from Lagna to see whether a person will experience the resources of a Bhaava."

vivekvshetty wrote:

What is the meaning of Lagna?

As per what I have understood,

Lagna means Body, Self, true nature of self, Beginning.
- In D1 its the native's true nature of physical body (appearance, attitude etc).
- In D10 its the native's true nature at work
- In D7 its the native's true nature with children

Om Tat Sat.
Deepak

Posts: 798 · Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:56 am

Namaskaar Deepak ji,
Our comments below in green.

deepakosho wrote:

I think I picked a wrong example considering spouse for 7th house. While actually 7th house shows the attitude towards one's marriage. Sorry for the confusion.

vivekvshetty wrote:

Eight is the maaraka (terminator if we may use the word) of the seventh so what resourses are we talking about?
The Paaka of the seventh is the eight, so how is the intelligence working as regards to partnerships of all forms? Eight from lagna shows what? Debts, illhealth etc. So what is the experience of the Native as regards the Seventh lord?

If 7th lord goes to 8th (in D1) it is very bad, because Maaraka lord goes to house of Disease. So 7th lord will give disease to the native. Here 7th lord gives resources to the 7th house (in the form of disease).

Deepak ji, you got it wrong. we are looking from the perspective of the seventh Bhaava and for the seventh bhaava the eighth (being the second from seventh) is Maaraka for the seventh.

I am trying to co-relate Bhavat-bhavam (2nd is the house of resource) and the general priciple you mentioned "1. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from the Bhaava to see the resources of a Bhaava itself. 2. Examine the Bhaava lord as counted from Lagna to see whether a person will experience the resources of a Bhaava."
What does bhaavat bhaavam mean?

vivekvshetty wrote:

What is the meaning of Lagna?

As per what I have understood,

Lagna means Body, Self, true nature of self, Beginning.
This is very close to what we are hinting at. Can you explain the meaning of self and also truth (Lagna is Satya).

- In D1 its the native's true nature of physical body (appearance, attitude etc).
- In D10 its the native's true nature at work
- In D7 its the native's true nature with children

Om Tat Sat.
Deepak

RishiRahul and vivek.