Lesson 10- Benefics and Malefics (Functional and Natural), Mysticism, reading, forums, Numerology, Sun Signs, Divination

Posts: 1431 · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:24 am

Dear Rishirahul and Vivekji,
I think u missed on my query.

Regards
Raman

Posts: 54 · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:07 am

Rishi and vivekji,

I applied my imagination!!!
4th house is 11th from 6th - it is the house of win to the 6th.
So it is the house of "win to enemies"

Thanks
Kiran

RishiRahul wrote:

rkirana wrote:

Please answer my doubts mentioned below:

* Question on what happens if lord of a house is functional malefic/benefic

vivek and RishiRahul= Parashara has given characteristics for all lagnas. How? Is an answer to your question. For a Meena lagna let us take a natural nenefic which turns into a functional malefic: Venus.=3rd.+8th. lord
+ love/sex. Meaning that the meen natives should beware of handling the love and health and communications aspects well... or else there will be trouble to handle.
Mercury(natural benefic) is a badhak and possesses dosha. Meaning that the home and spouse/relating to others would be important to the native; but it would have impediments.
Mars a natural malefic is a functional benefic. Meaning that here is an avenue we can change/need to change to achieve productivity/obtain benefits/lucrative are to develop.
Moon, a natural and functional benefic. Meaning an area which will be an important area in life always= creativity + children. Such lagnas creativity will be related to their children directly and indirectly.
The natures of lagnas has been decided by these natural and functional factors, in SHORT.

Given that it is an accepted principle that:
"Significance of a house manifests through the lord of the house as
one of the factors", how does this change, when the lord is functional
benefic/malefic?

vivek and RishiRahul=Explained above. Further changes/ultimate results happen due to postion and aspects. Apply imagination/develop it...more advanced.

If lord of a house is a functional malefic does it signify bad for the
things specified by the house?

vivek and RishiRahul=explained above.
Given that functional benefic signifies good for things specified by
the house, can we say that:
1. Good if dustana lord is malefic
2. Good if other house lords are benefic

I understand that it depends on other factors like aspects, occupants etc...I want to know the effect of a malefic house lord on the sustana/dustana houses

vivek and RishiRahul=Explained above.

* Question on houses signifying wrt other house.
6th house signifies enemies. Now 5th house is 12th (loss) from 6th:
Does this mean loss of enemies OR loss to enemies.

vivek and RishiRahul= 6th. house besides enemies stands for so many others things. When we think in terms of enemies and we it is the 7th. house and we. 5th. house is 11th. of 7th. meaning gain to enemies.
5th is the house of loss/undoing to the 6th. house= Undoing to upachaya(6th) is pleasure(5th) or loss to maternal uncle(6th).
Which is right interpretation?
Similary 4th house is 11th (win) from 6th: Does this mean win of enemies or win over enemies.

vivek and RishiRahul=Apply your imagination and give a reply. Let us sometimes answer through you.

Regards
Kiran

vivek and RishiRahul

Posts: 1431 · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:59 am

Dear Rishirahul and Vivek ji,
In my point of view 4th shud be house for the benefit of the enemies(if we just consider 6th for enemies)
thus it will help enemies to win over us(if dont consider other facts)coz in this we r thinking from the point of view of enemy and 11th is laabh sthan thus if we r considering 4th wrt 6th then it shud help enemy gain win over us.

Please do rectify for my mistakes.
Regards
Raman

Posts: 54 · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:04 pm

Rishiji and Vivekji

Pls. respond

rkirana wrote:

Rishiji and Vivekji,

I am sorry - but I have not got an answer to my question.

I want to isolate effects on house due to house lord alone.
If house lord of a house is functional benefic, does it mean good things to the house from the house lord. If this is true it is vice-versa when we have functional malefics.

So in this case, is it good if dustana lords are functional malefics (so that they mean negative to significations of the dustana)?

My question is simple:
GIven that one of the signifcators of what a house signifies is the lord of the house, if the lord of the house is benefic (considering effects due to house lord alone), does it mean good for the house significations and vice versa?

Posts: 4812 · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:37 pm

Raman Deep Singh wrote:

Dear Rishi Rahul and Vivek ji.
Thank you Rishi Rahul ji this is an excellent chapter, quite straight forward and easy to understand.I have gotta question. 8th sthan is also called as "Ayur(longevity) Sthan" thus it does explain y 7th house is also called as maaraka sthan,since it is 12th from 8th house thus harming age.
But if we consider 8th from different point of view ,since it is 12th from dharma sthan(9th house)thus bad (GENERALLY)and since 7th is 12th from 8th(thus bad for bad thing[i know my words may sound kiddish

]) thus dont u consider it to be good.Coz then 7th shud be good from all other point of view other than longevity point of view coz it harming a house which is bad fOR dharma house.

I hope im able to get my point clear.Please do elaborate.

Thanking You
Raman

Dear Rishirahul and Vivekji,
I think u missed on my query.

Regards
Raman[/quote]

Namashkaar Ramanji,

You are on the right track I think. It is enlightening to know that young souls like you and Kiran is tryig to understand and question the very basics that many miss uot on.

We did not miss out on your query and had it in the mind to answer it this morning.

"Coz then 7th shud be good from all other point of view other than longevity point of view coz it harming a house which is bad fOR dharma house".----------7th. house is no doubt a very important house being the house of partner/spouse/signifies powerful interpersonal relations/helps to decide whether we lose or win in battles. It is not doubt having many positive qualities. Its powerful bearing on sex/kama renders its not a house perfect in qualities though.......You are on the right track.

vivek and RishiRahul