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Posts: 1055 · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:19 pm

Dear Vivek and Rahul ji,
I would like to appreciate kumar69 for this question which was also going on in my mind for a while but i wasnt
able to put it clearly.

What r aspects of a house we have to consider to find out about exact effect of an argala.
Will we have to consider all properties of 2nd,4th and 11th house from house in question.

Which aspects of the 2nd,4t and 11th house we dont hav to consider for getting the full interpretation.

Like for example 5th house also stands for paternal gandfather(9th from 9th and also stand for job break 8th from 10th)
can we some how also relate these aspects also while considering 5th house from 7th house .Coz in this case 5th gona be labhaargala i.e. 11th from 7th.

In simple words how to pick up properties of the house to be considered during Argala consideration

Hope i havent confused you by my confusing way of explaning my question.

Regards,
Raman

Posts: 798 · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:24 pm

TheSaint wrote:

Greetings,

Looking at the Argala and Virodha caused by the 2nd and 12th house (please refer to chart below), on the Lagna here. This is the dhaanaargala.

Currently the native (that is me), is running Jupiter Dasa, Saturn Antar. This is important as Argala, like rashi/graha drishti are most relevant during their dasa periods (please correct me if I am wrong).

Jupiter (not combust) in 2nd in his own house is a shubhaaargala and a benefic and should help the native's health by providing good food. Sun in 2nd house in dhanus is happy, and even though a natural malefic, does not act as a papargala, as it is the Karak for the first house and a friend of Lagna Lord Mars. So it rigorously defends the Lagna.

Now for the obstruction, Saturn exalted in Libra, 12th causes obstruction. Saturn is also the AtmaKarak, hence has a major say. Saturn being exalted, provides rich food, but not necessarily healthy, because of its inimical nature towards Scorpio (Mars' house). Moon causes mixed results as it is badly placed and beneficial to Mars.

Now to find out who wins.

1. Both Rasis have equal number of planets in them. Next step...
2. Between Dhanus and Libra, which receives more Rasi Drishti. Libra receives Rasi Drishti from 2 planets (Rahu & Venus). Dhanus receives none. So the obstruction wins. Suppose, there was a tie here too, we would have to check among the Lords of Sagittarius and Libra, the one occupying higher degrees is stronger.

Now, there could be an argument that both the rasis are equally strong. Its not ideal to see the argala provided by the Karaka of a house being obstructed by the AtmaKarak. But, the bandhana yoga caused should not give harmful results to the extreme, because of the presence of natural benefics Jupiter and Moon. Bandhana Yoga caused only by malefics may give very harmful results.

Notice, that MokshaKarak Ketu is in Lagna. The Argala/Virodha on Ketu should be seen in the reverse. The argument for this is that Ketu is the only planet striving for Moksha.

Please confirm if these findings are on the right track.

I hope I have not annoyed anyone by showing an example using my own chart, I have done it only to try to show some unique combinations (AK, Karaka, Exalt., Own House, etc.,)

Karthikeyan

Namaskaar Karthikeyan ji,
Very good post, something that makes us very happy - not only for your contribution and participation but also for your lucid explanation.
Few points we would like to add.
Shani being exalted will surely dominate and the virodha argala is stronger.
Shani will obstruct the Dhanaargala and it is also a Bhandhana yoga as pointed out by you.
Will it not try to take the person away from the family?
Conjunction of the ninth and Badhak is also pointing to it.

Why would Shani give rich food? it will obstrut by preventing getting food on time.
Shani's being Aatmakaaraka has no bearing in judging the strength of the virodhaargala.

RishiRahul and vivek.

Posts: 9 · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:34 am

Kumar ji and Raman ji:

To use Argala, Virodha, Aspects etc., I think that its best to first understand what you want to study and then see how Argala affects it. For instance, if you were interested in understanding the power a person will posses/enjoy, we would have to look at the Argala on Ghati Lagna (GL , not sure if this has been introduced yet) and its Karak Sun. Similarly for wealth, Hora Lagna and Karak Jupiter. For residence and property, 4th house. For children, 5th house, etc., This is how the concept was presented, atleast from what I have been reading everywhere. Hope it helps.

This would be better than just seeing how Argala affects the 1st, 2nd, 3rd... houses, and then trying to deduce what it means based on what the house signifies. Also, dasa and antar dasa need to be checked.

Karthikeyan

Posts: 9 · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:46 am

Vivek ji:

I mentioned that Shani will contribute rich food because of it being in exaltation status. As you pointed out, it is a mistake because Shani should obstruct and delay while providing for food. However, I think its fair to say that if Shani is exalted or in friendly rasi in 2nd, it would provide food such that the native might over indulge and affect his health, rather than the food being impure.

Also, with respect to the separation from family, atleast this has not happened until now, however I could say that I am facing a stale mate caused by these opposition forces.

I understand now that the AK may have no bearing in strength for Argala, because if Saturn being AK was debilitated then the Argala could be considered stronger than the obstruction.

Thanks
Karthikeyan

Posts: 798 · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:17 pm

TheSaint wrote:

Kumar ji and Raman ji:

To use Argala, Virodha, Aspects etc., I think that its best to first understand what you want to study and then see how Argala affects it. For instance, if you were interested in understanding the power a person will posses/enjoy, we would have to look at the Argala on Ghati Lagna (GL , not sure if this has been introduced yet) and its Karak Sun. Similarly for wealth, Hora Lagna and Karak Jupiter. For residence and property, 4th house. For children, 5th house, etc., This is how the concept was presented, atleast from what I have been reading everywhere. Hope it helps.

This would be better than just seeing how Argala affects the 1st, 2nd, 3rd... houses, and then trying to deduce what it means based on what the house signifies. Also, dasa and antar dasa need to be checked.

Karthikeyan

Namaskaar All,
We second that and kudos to Karthikeyan ji.
Some of the Things mentioned in the post have not been explored as of now and in due course we will study the various things mentioned by him.

RishiRahul and vivek.