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Ascendant is Via Combusta
AyeCantSeeYou


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If the ascendant is via combusta in a chart, does this always give a 'no' to a question, regardless of what it is about?
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From skyscript Deborah Houlding we get

"- The area between 15 Libra and 15 Scorpio is termed the Via Combusta: 'Fiery Road' or 'Combust Way'. It is considered to be a debilitating area, particularly detrimental to the Moon. Al Biruni wrote of it:

"The combust way is the last part of Libra and the first of Scorpio. These two signs are not congenial to the Sun and the Moon on account of the obscurity and ill-luck connected with them and because each of them is the fall of one of the luminaries. They also contain the two malefics, the one by exaltation (Libra, Saturn) the other by house (Scorpio, Mars)."

This may be a very ancient aphorism, originating from the period when 15 Libra corresponded with the autumn equinox."

This is more a description of the state of the querant
and serves as verification of what the question
would be about ( if we are talking about the Ascendant
being in the via combusta ).

Some charts are very difficult and it is conceivable that
some particular chart would have the Ascendant in the via
combusta and absolutely no other indication that resolves
the client question - then possibly this would have some value
but the real deal so to speak in Horary is comparing the
aspects of the rulers and then the moons aspects to the
ruelrs and that takes care of well over 85% for purely
getting a result from a chart.
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Arigon, what if Asc is Via Combusta -but Signifactor Venus is in 5th H Pisces. Would this Signifactor be in a positive position? (For a love horary for example).
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I believe it would depend on other aspects to Venus. From what I've been reading, no one particular aspect can be taken as a definite. All the aspects for that planet must be looked at.
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Ok - if we take an example chart of
Feb 18 2010 at 22:1360 in New York, New York
as shown below...

Ascendant is in via combusta ....

With modern rulers for a house 1 and house 5 question
Querant is ruled by Venus in 5th house as Libra is ruled
by Venus
Quesited is 5th house ruler Neptune in the 4th.

No aspect between querant ruler or Quesited Ruler
so no future for querant with a 5th house result.

Observe Venus has no applying aspects
[ Venus Seperating Conjunction Jupiter
Venus Seperating Sextile Pluto
Venus Seperating Conjunct Sun ]

There are however good aspects with the Moon
to Neptune which alows this chart to grant a positive
result for a first and fifth house query but Cairenes
question was
"Arigon, what if Asc is Via Combusta -but Signifactor Venus is in 5th H Pisces. Would this Signifactor be in a positive position? (For a love horary for example)."

If we use traditional rulers ( and regiomentus house )
then first house ruled by Venus - Venus in the 5th.

Fifth house ruled by Jupiter - Jupiter in the 5th

Again - same result for traditonal rulers - no aspect between
first and fifth ruler but Moon supplies the final positive
result...

Observe Moon makes an applying sextile to Neptune
and Jupiter ( fifth house rulers Modern and Traditional
respectively ) ...

The Moon is always the Querant co-ruler so if we were
asking for a result from this chart of 1st and 5th house
question we would say the result is positive as we have
an applying sextile ( to both modern or traditional
rulers of the fifth house ). And there are some more good
aspects the Moon makes that confirm this answer.


Anyway :) the via combusta is debilitating, and we see
this immediately echoing in the chart with the ( primary )
rulers of 1st and 5th house not having aspect and only
through the Moon does the chart work ( Moon granting
a positive reult perhaps indicating that through emotional
or group interrelationships the result will be provided -
resolution of charts being a more advanced topic )...

Does this help Cairene ?



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