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Posts: 30 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:39 am

Wow! that's a really hard question... both are important to me.. of course my families feelings are very important to me.. afterall its the reason why i am on this forum. I know i found the person i want to be with.. but after the series of events in my life i don't trust fate.. which is why i asked if he and i are to get married. I know we have the blessings from his family.. i just don't know about my family. Since i am certain and have faith in what God has brought into my life.. i won't focus on my question about weather he and i are to get married.. because without my families happiness i don't know if i could do it. God i believe has presented Himself many times to bind me and my bf together.. and i am keeping my faith in Him.. that he has brought my bf and i together for a greater good to last our lives.

So my question is then this.. time is 8:47pm mountain time, Dec 19, 2007 in Calgary, Canada.. will my family be happy with my union with my partner?

thanks Sei no Senshi.. your guidance has helped me direct my true thoughts and feelings.
NA

Posts: 421 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:02 pm

Since this is about judging people's acceptance of a relationship, the best way to see where problems may emerge is to see what all the planets are doing in relation to Saturn (since Saturn is ruling the Seventh house of union). Leo rises, so you're signifed by both of the Lights (Sol as the ruler of Leo and Luna as per the rules).

Before I even really start, I have to ask, are you more concerned about your mother's acceptance than anyone else's? Luna is very tightly conjunct the Tenth house cusp, and since Luna rules the Twelfth of the hidden enemies I think you're afraid that she is indeed a hidden enemy, not telling you what she truly thinks. Another weird thing I found was that Saturn is receiving Jupiter who rules the Fifth and Eighth houses, so the idea of this union is receiving both your love and fear. :D Crazy astrology and it's comments.

Anyway, back to the whole figuring out what planets are doing in relation to Saturn.

Sol - Saturn is in Sol's face (so mutual reception there) you and the union are receiving one another. Good.

Luna - Saturn is in Luna's Triplicity as Earth by Night. Also, the exalted and powerful Luna is hastily Trining Saturn. I think you're marrying this one.

Mercury - Saturn is in Mercury's domicile, so those represented by the houses Mercury rules (Eleventh and Second) are more than eager to accept the union. These are your friends I'm talking about here.

Mars - Mars does not receive Saturn in anyway, so here is your flag. Mars rules the Fourth house and so signifes your father. Don't worry though, Luna receives Mars and hastenes a Sextile with him, so I think you'll talk your father into it, or he'll give in once he sees how happy you are. Mars is in your Eleventh house of benefactors and supporters.

Jupiter - Saturn is in Jupiter's detriment of Virgo, which sounds bad at first, but don't worry, Jupiter doesn't rule any family houses and I told you about what Jupiter's doing up above.

Venus - Saturn is in the Fall of Venus, but is also in one of her degrees of Terms, so Venus doens't know if she's coming or going as far as this is concerned. She's more worried than she is confident about it, though. Venus rules the Tenth and Third, which are actually pretty vital houses. The Tenth being your mother and the Third being just about everyone else (siblings, cousins, etc). Seems like you're going to have the hardest time convincing this one. Venus is in Luna's detriment and Luna will eventually oppose her. However, Luna is in Venus' domicle of Taurus and in her house, so you're desperately trying to get her to approve of you and notice you that you've in some way come to be like her. I do, though, think Venus will approve as she receives Mars who will help her see what's going on.

Just out of sheer curiosity I threw in Juno, who turns out to be Squared to Saturn. So, I expect a sort of bumpy road.

Posts: 30 · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:40 am

hi Sei no Senshi

Thank you for your reply

And you are right about my mum. We have a weird relationship and i do see her as an enemy at times.. not good i know but we have a bad relationship and i am desperately trying to seek her approval. But from the sounds of it, its going to be a real chore.. something i was afraid of. I am really scared to talk to my mum about it all. i might talk to her about it over the weekend. But don't know when i should tell my dad.. do you see my mum ultimatley happily accepting?
Your right about me having love and fear for this relationship. My fear stems from my family. His family are great and have treated me very nicely. Its my mum especially who i fear. With what you were saying about Venus.. is it really bad? I don't quiet understand everything you were saying. (I'm sorry.. i don't know much about astrology) And about how you think i am marrying him.. is that something your pretty confident about?
thank you for everything.. i've been waiting for a response before i talk to my mum... now i know its just as i expected.. a bumpy road. if you don't mind my asking what is a juno?
NA

Posts: 421 · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:46 am

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i might talk to her about it over the weekend. But don't know when i should tell my dad.. do you see my mum ultimatley happily accepting?

I was actually thinking your father would help you win your mother over. You are receiving your father who is acting as a supporter of you. Your father is receiving your mother. So, he can agree with you, and she can agree with him. I hope that makes sense. @.@

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With what you were saying about Venus.. is it really bad? I don't quiet understand everything you were saying. (I'm sorry.. i don't know much about astrology)

Yeah, sorry about that. Sometimes I just get going about rules and what I'm seeing in case someone reading it is trying to learn from it I get distracted from actually getting around to saying what it MEANS! Well, Luna (you) and Venus (your mother) are going to come to an opposition, which speaks of conflict. However, I totally think you'll win out. Luna is exalted, waxing, and in the Tenth. Venus is detrimented and in the Fourth.

In short, it's like a tank vs. a clown car.

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And about how you think i am marrying him.. is that something your pretty confident about?

I'll bet five dollars! XD

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if you don't mind my asking what is a juno?

The third member of the Asteriod Quartet. She has to do with unions and all kinds of stuff like that, I was just curious to see where she fell. Not that I attribute much power to her or the Outers in horary.

Posts: 30 · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:52 pm

Sei no Senshi wrote:

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I was actually thinking your father would help you win your mother over. You are receiving your father who is acting as a supporter of you. Your father is receiving your mother. So, he can agree with you, and she can agree with him. I hope that makes sense. @.@

Ok so i should talk to my dad first? My parents are divorced and its very well safe to say that they hate eachother. Don't know how my dad would convince my mum.. but i guess i can try that route!

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Yeah, sorry about that. Sometimes I just get going about rules and what I'm seeing in case someone reading it is trying to learn from it I get distracted from actually getting around to saying what it MEANS! Well, Luna (you) and Venus (your mother) are going to come to an opposition, which speaks of conflict. However, I totally think you'll win out. Luna is exalted, waxing, and in the Tenth. Venus is detrimented and in the Fourth.

Ok.. well that sounds ok.. if i win the battle that is.. why do i always get the clown car!

I am trying to bring up the conversation with mum closer to when i go back to uk.. but i don't know what the best strategy would be yet. She has a lot of anger in her, i already see that. i want to face her anger with coolness.. to calm her down.. but i know i too will lose my temper with the things my mum will say. I'm trying to stay focused on the objective rather than get all tangled up in the emotions of what my mum is going to drag down with it. How do i do this? any idea? i don't want to fight with her.. but let her know that i do love her and i will do what it takes to wait this out and win her approval. But i want to do it with peace.. not anger.

In short, it's like a tank vs. a clown car.

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And about how you think i am marrying him.. is that something your pretty confident about?

I'll bet five dollars! XD
is that it?! is there something else you see that you haven't mentioned? you don't sound so confident about it

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if you don't mind my asking what is a juno?

The third member of the Asteriod Quartet. She has to do with unions and all kinds of stuff like that, I was just curious to see where she fell. Not that I attribute much power to her or the Outers in horary.

where does Juno fall then in the union side of things for me? is it good or bad?

thanks
NA