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krishna came 2000 years before so called christ/kristos and there is solid proof he existed not in just books ! for so called copycated christ there is no proof except bible which is in itself is a collection of stories which contradict eachother

Dwarka, India - 12,000 Year Old City of Lord Krishna Found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZFS9Hij0M

Lost city of Dwaraka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeDMSXOhDbY


Australia goes all PC with a ban on BC: Birth of Jesus to be removed as reference point for dates in school history books
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033225/Australia-goes-PC-ban-BC-Birth-Jesus-removed-reference-point-dates-school-history-books.html







reason for fish shaped pope's hat -->






just as said in the beginning of life on earth the fish carried the vishnu and delivered his message to some guy and saved the world.. the so called elected pope acts like the carrier of vishnu or his message or whatever .. to this world! a wannabe lol





both christ/krishna are said to come back on white horse with god's wrath or whatever.
when they created bible what they did was they skipped the rest of the so called avatars and only used the fish and the kristos.. and also tried to eliminate many things related to krishnas life so that noone can trace the original religion /source for  the bible


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why pillars/shiv linga are erected because ancient people believed it was the beginning of this universe -



Judaism and Shaivite Hinduism connection - Connection Between Ancient Indian And Hebrew Language, A scholars find compelling evidence








A 19th Century British Scholar Explains Why the Western World Never Learned About the Indian Origins of the Jews.

Though not generally known in this day and age, Godfrey Higgins (1772-1833), archeologist, politician, humanitarian, social reformer, and author, was one of the most enlightened and educated men of early 19th century England. He was a well-known iconoclast, rationalist, and admirer of the Jews, who vehemently opposed any kind of persecution of this ancient religious group. He wrote two oversized volumes, totaling around 1600 pages of fine print, about the Jews' Indian origins. These two volumes, entitled Anacalypsis, are extremely rare. The last printing was done in 1965 by University Books, NY. It's a difficult book to read because the author painstakingly proved the minutest of details in his dissertation.
READ FULL HERE - http://www.viewzone.com/matlock.html
http://mondovista.com/davidkoreshx.html


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Walter Raymond Drake (1913 - 1989) -
The Dead Sea Scrolls surprise us by not mentioning Christ or Christianity, the Essene teachings suggest that some of the Christian doctrine originated a century earlier. Nothing is gleamed of Christ from contemporary sources, surprising in an age of classic writers; almost all we know of Him is from Church written by imaginatives decades later. Perhaps Christianity is a Myth necessary to the evolution and inspiration of man during the lost Piscean age? Man’s questing soul soars beyond the dogmatic creeds of yesterday to the cosmic religion of tomorrow.
The oldest source of wisdom in the world must surely spring from India , whose initiates long ago probed the secrets of heaven, the story of Earth, the depths of Man’s soul, and propounded those sublime thoughts which illumined the Magi of Babylon, inspired the philosophers of Greece and worked their subtle influence on the religions of the West. "


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At the beginning of the book of John in the New Testament, it states, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” This is actually a verbatim translation of the Vedic Sanskrit mantra: “Prajapatirvai idamagraasit, tasya vag dvitiyaa asit, vag vai paramam Brahma.”


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In Sanskrit, Month is called 'Mas/Masa'

1. Christmas or X-mas is nothing but continuation of Hindu tradition in a different form. Christmas literally means Krishna-Maas or month of Krishna.

2. The X in X-mas or 'Dec' in December refers to number 10. Because if we calculate as per Hindu Calendar which starts in March, December is the10th month. As per English calendar, December is 12th month and hence number 10 in X or Dec does not make any sense.
December is root of Dashambar meaning tenth part of sky meaning tenth month of the year.

3. Bell, Book and Candle – the major symbols of Christmas are nothing but reminiscent of Hindu temple where bell is a must, book refers to holy book and candle is equivalent of Deepak or light of Yajna. Bell is derived from Sanskrit word "Bal" meaning strength. Bell is used in temples to provide strength to prayers.

4. The ancient Vedic custom of applying ash or sandalwood paste to the body is still retained by Christianity in the observance of Ash Wednesday. The so-called “All Soul’s Day” is an exact translation of the Vedic observance of Sarva Pitri Amavasya, the day fixed by tradition for the worship of all deceased ancestors.


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Pope derives from "PaapaH" meaning remover of or absolver from Sin.
Vatican derives from "Vatika" which means a hermitage. In Vedic tradition, sages used to live in hermitages.(Ashrama-Vatica" or "Dharma-Vatica" or "Ananda-Vatica.)
Priest and Abbot derive from "Purohit" and "Bhat" respectively, both signifying Vedic priests.
Pontiff is a corruption of the Sanskrit term 'puntah'.
Saint obviously is offshoot of 'Sant'. Apostle is Sanskrit 'Aap-Sthal' signifying one who proceeds from place to place [for preaching]

SOURCE -
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1. World Vedic Heritage Vol 1,2 – PN Oak
2. Christianity is Krishna Neeti – PN Oak
(Publisher: Hindi Sahitya Sadan, N Delhi, India


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The term “vestry” in referring to the room in churches in which holy clothes are kept comes from the Sanskrit word vestra, meaning clothes. Even the word “psalm” with a silent “P” comes from the Sanskrit word sam or sama which means holy and serious sacred songs, hymns or chants, as found in the Sama-veda.

Other Christian links with Sanskrit words can be found in the name Bethlehem, which is the English mispronunciation of the Sanskrit Vatsaldham, which means “the home (town) of the darling child.” The Sanskrit term Nandarath is linguistically connected with Nazareth. Nandarath means Nanda’s chariot, and King Nanda was the guardian at whose village he nurtured Lord Krishna (sometimes pronounced as Chrisn, and later Christ in some regions).


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manuscripts what does it means
'handwritten scripts'? but why 'manu' scripts?

Manu = "Satyavrata" (One with the oath of truth)

well Manu [???] is a title accorded to the progenitor of mankind, and also the very first king to rule this earth, who saved mankind from the universal flood.
He was the one to give the knowledge to sages/rishis to write the first laws for humans known as 'Manusmriti' [?????????] [Smriti (Sanskrit: ??????)] literally "that which is remembered," refers to a specific body of Hindu religious scripture/text]

The text presents itself as a discourse given by Manu to a group of seers, or rishis, who beseech him to tell them the "law of all the social classes". All future Dharmasastras followed it and yeh corrupted it also.

The word Man surely originates from Manu or "Manav" .Manav[hindi/sanskrit] means 'Human' in english.


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MANU AND NOAH were same person
In Sanskrit, the name Manu appropriately came to mean "man" or "mankind" (since Manu, or Noah, was the father of all post-flood mankind). The word is related to the Germanic Mannus,2 the founder of the West Germanic peoples. Mannus was mentioned by the Roman historian Tacitus in his book Germania.3 Mannus is also the name of the Lithuanian Noah.4 Another Sanskrit form, manusa is closely related to the Swedish manniska,5 both words meaning "human being."

The same name may even be reflected in the Egyptian Menes (founder of the first dynasty of Egypt) and Minos (founder and first king of Crete). Minos was also said in Greek mythology to be the son of Zeus and ruler of the sea.6

The English word "man" is thus also related to the Sanskrit manu, as well as its equivalents in other Germanic languages. Gothic, the oldest known Germanic language, used the form Manna, and also gaman ("fellow man").
MORE - http://www.icr.org/article/noah-human-etymology/

****this guy manu as per vedic mythology was the person was saved by a fish (vishnu avatar) which marked as the beginning of life on earth, the reason why jesus(vishnu) is written in fish



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Christ and Krishna's mothers were holy virgins [Krishna was conceived via an immaculate, miraculous or sexless conception. The Srimad Bhagavatam (10.3.17) also says: "You never entered the womb of Devaki; rather, You existed there already.]
Yeshua and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.
Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.
Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Christ is often depicted as a shepherd; Krishna was a cowherd
His adoptive human father was a carpenter.
A spirit or ghost was their actual father.
Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent.
Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.
Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.
Both Yeshua and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted.
Both were identified as "the seed of the woman bruising the serpent's head."
Jesus was called "the lion of the tribe of Judah." Krishna was called "the lion of the tribe of Saki."
Both claimed: "I am the Resurrection."
Both referred to themselves having existed before their birth on earth.
Both were "without sin."
Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.
They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured "all manner of diseases."
Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.
Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.
Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.
Both encountered a Gentile woman at a well.
Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies.
Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.


In the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) Yeshua's crucifixion on a cross or stake is often referred to as being "hung on a tree"

Acts 5:30: "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus...hanging him on a tree.
Acts 10:39: "...hanging him on a tree."
Acts 13:29: "...they took him down from the tree..."
Galatians 3:13: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree."
1 Peter 2:24: "...who his own self bare our sins in his body upon the tree..." (All ASV)

krishna was said to have been killed by an hunter's arrow and was literally hung onto a tree but their is an alternative story also, if you go by that also then it also proved that christ is krishna . The story of crucifixation just made it look awesome that some guy died for our sins by getting crucified onto a cross :D people always like others to die for their own sins ..
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Death of Krishna - An alternate view[/size]

S Acharya’s book called ‘Suns of God’ that tries to draw conspiracy theory parallels between Krsna, Christ and Buddha. Notwithstanding its generic viewpoint on various things, the one section which caught my attention was called ‘Krsna Crucified?’ which narrates a slightly different variant of the Amar Chitra Katha version of it. Here the author suggests that due to the various enemies Krsna had made for himself (with the infighting in the Yadava clan) a man named Angada (explanation further below) took him to the banks of the Ganga and executed him with arrows. His mortal frame then stuck to a tree for a while which, perhaps by whatever divine force was in him, bore ‘bright red flowers and diffused around it the sweetest perfumes’. By the time his biggest follower Arjna could reach the spot, Krsna’s mortal soul had already vanished.

read more /source - http://shakri.blogspot.com/2011/10/death-of-krishna-alternate-view.html

The Krishna and Christian Jesus Parallels
Robert Howard Kroepel
here read - http://www.bobkwebsite.com/krishnajesusmyths.html


What a strange world in which we live! The Catholic Church has always known that Christianity did not begin with Jesus Christ, but yet it tries to make us think it did.

St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 AD) wrote: "This, in our day, is the Christian religion, not as having been unknown in former times, but as having recently received that name."

Eusebius of Caesarea (circa 283-371 AD) said: "The religion of Jesus Christ is neither new nor strange."

In Anacalypsis, The 17th century British orientalist and iconoclast, Godfrey Higgins, insisted that Christianity was already firmly in place in both the West and the East, many centuries before Jesus Christ was born. He said, The Crestians or Christians of the West probably descended directly from the Buddhists, rather than from the Brahmins. (Vol. 2, pp 438, 439.) [buddhism came from hindus as budhha was himself a hindu prince, use of OM and vedic mantra chanting is still done by buddhists, buddhism is a sort of yogic branch of vedic ]

http://krishna-christ.blogspot.com/2011/08/christ-is-krishna.html



*****many documentaries made are also almost near finding the truth -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L7cQ3BrD5U

bbc - The Lost Gospels, presented by Anglican priest Pete Owen Jones, is a fascinating exploration into the huge number of ancient Christian texts that didn't make it into the New Testament. Shocking and challenging, these were works in that presented a Jesus who didn't die, who took revenge on his enemies and who kissed Mary Magdalene on the mouth. This Jesus is unrecognisable from that found in the traditional books of the New Testament.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjHTWw8fYSw

history - A documentary starring Robert Beckford, tries to discover the lives of the "hidden" members of the family of Jesus. The film shows how the early church tried to eliminate the accounts of Jesus brothers and sisters. The movie makes efforts to discover the real message of Jesus rather than the message about Jesus.

OK . Evard .  The summary of Christianity as occuring before the time of monotheist doctrine to begin One God religion
shows a similarity as Krisna and Christ~a are the same likeness to begin a foregoing of the end of polytheist worship .,
and begin proper account to show the Catholic Bible is not nicely represented by the King James Testament of Christ~a
with regard , Christian ethic offers MonoTheism will be noted as One God and Indian lore of the Deific of Planets . . . . .
will be the older ways to say the 1,000 year Kingdom and Religion may in fact have the return of the Krishna figure . , .
though not as regard to the original thought of pantheon begetting family of Deities known to me as Henotheis Visita~en
ways the Deities are not super beings from the ethereal equivalent of a Super Planet of Greater Beings , though the new
OverSeer in religion of Christianity [and accepted Catholic] will be One God and each modern monotheism notes religion
as One God though the incarnation or likeness of the Deity of each of the mentioned Seven Heavens may be newer hint:
Monotheism did have older following which was debased as the debate of Families of Deities may not be accepted with @
Vatican : the sense of Modern Dioscenia : Krishna was said to be the son of Deit Following the rule of immaculate and on
Promise~n the Sense of Devout Ethic and Prophetic ., Calendar are noted as denying the actual term of 1 or 2 thousand:
years of the Nature at this time of Civilization and I may note the same will be considered at Kingdom .  When histories :
about the mythic of King David and King Arthur refer to a returning Once and Future King each 500 years .,. history since
the time of David as before Christ~a and mis quoted in the King James Western Christian Bible as before ascension . . . .
the first ascension will have been mis quoted as David becoming Nazareth Jesuit , and Gideon noting as growing his hair .
The Gideon's Testament tells a different story of David and Christ~a and the stories vary by book of religion and Bible ~n
the way we see PolyTheism as not accepted by Vatican and older Vatica as during the time of Indian Polytheistic worship .
The way Vatican begins debate about the return of Krishna will be to show dioscenia see a likeness to Christian prophetic ,
and as the Kings of history form a more modern opinion since time of David and Arthur [considering 824 A.D. isn't proper]
it is likeness to the following debate of the incarnation of Krisna returning to monotheistic beginning though with the debate
about ascension what would be the longevity of prophetic divinity so thereby what would be his incarnation and what would
be his 1000s year likeness as the divinity of rational thought to consider the Deities of Hinduism are not accepted with the :
Classical Age of Western Thought about Divinity and the Newer Places of Religion Considerate to Transition in Cultures aum
with the Ages of Man and Classical Religion as Making Transition to Newer Places of Dioscetic Promise with Accorded Savior
as the way we may consider the return of the prophetic figure not as copied though as returning to newer Religious Era with
the sense of divinity , Krishna would have received longevity and Christ~a would have been his following Divine Progenety .

This is the same with the Kings since 35 years before Christ became the child of Nazareth {and Nazarene} .  The standard ^
religion keeps is 1,000 Earth years in good time of the proper accord to begin newer thoughts about HenoCrati and religion.s
supporting the role of the Divine Right of Kings . So to sublate your theory on Krishna .,. what is the proper time of 500 year
accorded Kingdom without the so called role of 832~834 A.D. and King Arthur , who is said to have arrived in maturity at the
12th year after the year 500 A.D. and what would be the same 12th Year to Western Calendar of David , Arthur , Everes and
yeah you guessed it . , . Evard of the same time and unrecorded as actual Empire~ial King during years of Henry the VIII th.

So is there a reason other thn the Vatican cover up of PolyTheism to not record the actual rites of religion and prophety with:
A Sense of Newer Accord to Not Bother The Return of the Incarnation of Krishna as Moving in Ways to the New Found Peace :
As Religion Protects the Prophetic and to be common and not bother the likes of those who would demonish Common Peace ,
we may be protected with Anew Free Trust as the greed of taken money and free trust are wonder to the problem with those
imposing as the likes of the Man before David .,. who was Adam and not his trembling imposters of indebted recalcitrance .,.

So your issue is with calendar and the return of prophetic and my issue is with the 500 year Calendar of King Empire~ial . , .

So Krishna became Christian and Shiva you said produced a linga in hyperbole as high as the sky .  Obelisk aside ., Shiva~n
The Destroyer of Illusion is more like a group of those dancing in S~Heaven as a triumph to explain energy of destroying the
powerful dance of trickery known to be with sword upon each of 6 arms and appearing in fire with radiation of discomfort . , .
more like a theatrical ballet of three men in shadow [though Deity] acting the dance of mirrors and mimicry with prop-swords
and Shiva Shiva~n Seava and Shivana are not the Deity{s} of Fearing Distraught though the Old Power of S~Heaven Aligned
and are certainly not the power of begetting Krishna as he may be Son of God in story though . . . Move On . HenoCrat Evard.     {it's my debate} aum~^

While the life and stories of each are similar, there are records on both.  And as always there are differences
to each to make the life lived valid in their own right.

Spiritalk , though you are not among my favorite.s , I will allaud you for being tactful .

Incarnation as the debate of the progeny appearing as religion or Kingdom
makes the Vatican wonder if there will be time before when [Krisna~I*nity]
the role of Man and Godly wonders to begin a form~a lineage with the
role of Christ~a as supporting the older lineage of the movement of
religion to show the likes of prophetenic <spelled> leader will be Anew
terms of the religion basis at Earth commend~ing the new lands or on
premise of the future without distraught , the spaces of what will be on
thought to begin the new era of Krishna~Inety proper accord to show
the ways of Lands wanting GeoDomain of Holy Leader will transition
to show it may the Law of Religion to move on to lands of new worth
to Godly Accord with Improving Modern~ite Religion.s and Kingdom .,.
While one speaks of debasing the law of modern ethic , I wonder . , . :  will it be the rite of spiritual incarnation to begin progenety of the Faith en Man .

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if you really believe krishna is the real christ.. you better get on this "real truth" then.. don't just stop here.  Get out there and start influencing people, because..

the "fake" christ Jesus is winning this battle against your "real" christ Krishna.  He's got a lot of people on his side.  

You're not serving the "real" christ Krishna very well by only posting that here on a hardly exposed mystic board..

You need to get out there are start telling people the truth, man!!  



sigh..

You know, you have much quicker access to the truth than all this bullshit research.  It's called... yourself.  Jesus made you with direct access to communicate with him and to know the truth,

Please stop lying to yourself and others.

Have a blessed day.. after you repent for denying Jesus Christ.  

"Who is a liar but he who that denies Jesus is the messiah?"   - The Bible