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Aegeus
repudiate the system


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Might be worth considering making the church yard into a garden to add some practicality and to have the church providing some vitality.

Part of the cleansing going in is things and services that lack practicality and lack serving a vital purpose being withdrawn from so that energy can go into things that are needed more.

Lots of a farmers I know have their fingers crossed that the recession will finally be the collapse of the economic system and land ownership will end so that people can just go and grow on the land freely rather then rich bastards owning land and dictating what can happen on the land.

Of course their farmers who have struggled with the rigid structures which have been set up in attempts to perpetuate the money system. Bankers knowing full well that you can't run an economy off of people living sustainably as their would be no need for money when people could just get everything they need from the land and the processes that turn energy into usable forms, who have set up rigid laws and other crap in attempts to get people dependent on money which bankers control.


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spiritalk


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While your arguments for farmers is rather valid, it is niave.  The fact is we do not have a garden.  Small church groups meet in rented quarters and do not have full access to gardens and such.  Perhaps if you considered that there are other groups than the mainstream, wealthy churches, you might understand.  

As to farmers, we will still need food long after any and all economic arguments have been silenced.  The fact is in the Province I live in Ontario - all the farm land is being eaten up by development.  They want their share of the wealth as well and that is found in the price of their land and its proximity to building and development.
Aegeus
repudiate the system


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I read a book based in Argentina during the coo. My mum was actually in Argentina during some of the coo and barely got out. The book was based around this one family and the dad was a hard worker and he worked the land. He never sold his property saying that when all else is gone the land is the only thing left.

Not sure how well I got the wording but I'll elaborate on the message. Money is transient. Land is fixed. Looking at history it's very common to see natives who sold their land having it good for a short time then running out of money and having less then they started with. Alternately someone who knows how to work the land can always find treasure which can be shared and while it can be sold its true value can not translate into dollar value. I'm not sure I can do justice the full implications of this wisdom, certainly not in words. This was through a coo where the grocery stores were barren and food was limited he refused to sell the land.

"They want their share of the wealth as well and that is found in the price of their land and its proximity to building and development."

Wanting wealth of that sort is not to want true wealth but is being seduced by the glamour of the western world. Countless sophisticated and evolved native cultures have lost nearly everything through selling land. They knew how to live in the real world and well, and then they got handed a bunch of money and didn't know what to do it it and wasted away. A Maori proverb I've read has a picture of the land and woods and says this is my back bone. If you sell that then you become spineless.
Krishnakumar M R


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Respected All,

I am sorry to say.... we are going far away from the exact crux of the topic....

Please be specific and stick to the basic points which we all need to follow (I am taking more advantage... Please do not mistake me) in order to avoid further damages in the society...  Also in what way we can try to make an attempt to help the people who lost their job and sufferring with their family (kids, parents etc).

With all of your expert comments, we can consolidate the opinion and do our level best to avoid further damages.

Krishna
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