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Aegeus
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In holistic healing the being is looked at as a whole. Rather then looking for what is wrong the being is contrasted to one which is in good health and a distinction searched for of what is lacking from the afflicted and thus causing their ailment.

Depression can be caused by dwelling on negativity too much. Pharmaceuticals(I refuse to call them medicine) serve to hide symptoms. Like putting a sticker over top of the flashing warning light in a car meaning the car needs repairs. Keeping on driving ignoring the warning signs eventually the car would fail. Simply taking in the information of the need for repair and making effort to fix it properly would prevent further damage.

There's medicine's people have been using for thousands of years. There's crystals absorb negative energy and transmute it into usable energy. Taking pharmaceuticals is like putting a rag on a leak. You have to keep holding it there and it will be dripping even when your holding it. It might be work first off to fix a leak properly with material that will last, but in the run this is much less work.

I Haven't had a lot of help from friends, but could not relate in the same way when it was done in a professional circumstance as part of an institution. I know someone who has not listened to me, either from not wanting to hear it, or not accepting wisdom from someone more then half their age, who loves going to a counselor. My guess is the counselor tells her what she wants to hear, and anything touchy just lets her figure out for her self, as she can only do so if she is ready to handle knowing.

Jet is a very good stone for dispelling depression. Lepidolite is an anti-depressant stone(it smells like flowers). Also there is happiness mudra(buddha us seen doing it). A whole world of relaxing herbs. Ant-depressant cati for example. Flowers are good anti-depressants. The smell is uplifting.
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swetha
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hey,

We have been through many medicines and finally decided on one
Though it has its side effects at this stage,,,being able to wake up in the morning is the first step.

Awareness we have achieved

Regularity is one thing still missing!

And what if the patient doesn't seem to like any counselor??

We have tried two who were not liked
the third one we try next week.
so do keep your fingers crossed.

It is a tough fight.......

Just yest I got called " a wild boar"!@#$%

Can you imagine me to be a wild boar... and we were laughing about it two minutes later.

We have started doing yoga... but again one day he has just eaten something..one day he is busy with work and keeps missing but yes I do appreciate that he makes an attempt.

And in between all this and work... I get exhausted.. people are angry ( especially relatives) with me becoz I do not receive their calls nor visit them...

I just dont feel upto it... and they wont understand if i say so.. saying I was out is acceptable though they know I am lying... but when I say I didn't feel like it... it isn't acceptable

what a world
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whitenight79


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Hi swetha

I so feel your pain. I think you are doing an excelent job at being patient. I used to get upset because when people hear anything about mental illness they think u r nuts and that it's very irritating. If we liked to feel the way we feel, why are we trying to get help to get better.
My deppression started because of my separation and just got worse. When I finally thought I was on the right track I started with the mood swings, I wasn'y sleeping. When my dr fixed the sleeping problems, i got better. I took about 3 years and 8 different types of medication.
Also remember that being on medication doesn't have to be permanent. It might just be a little help to cope with the circumstances that are triggering the problem.
Even if U have to take them for life, who cares as long as you are happy.
As for family and friends go don't sweat it, If they really love you, they will be there whenever u are ready, they might be a little upset but they'll get over it and if they are not there it's because they don't really love you, so you don't need them around anyways.  
Listen to me given you advise, yesterday was the first day in about 4 months that I got out of the house because I wanted to.
I wasn't sad or depress(the med was working ) I just didn't want to see anyone, my cell phone was off. Now I feel like a million bucks.  
As for the side effects just bear with them for a bit, it took me about 3 weeks to accept my last med. In all those 3 weeks I slept almost 24 hrs. I had to set up the alarm to take my kid to school AND TO PICK HER UP. I wouldn't eat or had energy for nothing else than going to the bathroom. I didn't visit my basement for days bc I was too tired.
So don't worry, U r not the only one.
The counselors don't worry about it. I tried 5 diferent girls and guys, on one of them I walked out half way my first sesion, another one pretty much told me I was just a big cry baby! Just imagine how that went.  Another one when told about the problems with my husband just said "drop him like a hot potato". See ya!  
Until finally one pretty much played 'THE GAME' with me if I was in the mood to rip someone apart he would help me, called him(my husband)names and all that fun stuff, we even called someone a "slut".
After a few sesions I asked him if he normally did that and he said that he does whatever needs to be done for the patient to feel better. In my case I had a lot of anger, pain and he told me that by relating to what I was saying and agreeing with me I felt understood, so I started feeling better until I didn't even wanted to talk about about any more.    
Sorry about the long post, I wanted u to know my story so you don't feel lonely in this struggle...
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swetha
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hey,
thanks
Its always lovely to read long posts (as long as someone else is writing it)
my husband is the patient here...

>> I wasn't sad or depress(the med was working  ) I just didn't want to see anyone, my cell phone was off.

This is how abhi (my husband) feels at the moment I guess.

But in India, we get hounded by people at times, who are hell bent on meeting you, whether you like it or not and that's putting me into situations..like the one I got stuck in today morning..where I just wanted to be polite and called up to say hi becoz they leave town tomorrow and since Abhi doesnt want to go out with them, but they are "insistent" on taking him out for dinner!

Now I wait for the fireworks when he wakes up

The reason I love this board is because I am selfish... I know I shall be helped out here:) Hopefully I shall be able to give back the same way!

Lots of love
swetha
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Dear Swetha,

I wish to add my view on this thread.  Wanted to comment a few days ago, had my fingers ready to type but stopped.  Now I understand why.  Meds are there for a purpose, to get "temporary" balance so that coping skills can be taught, but learning those coping skills is up to us.  The lashing out at you is because of the frustration he is experiencing, and he loves you and you love him, so he knows he will be forgiven.  Counseling is a must, to learn the coping skills, but it has to be the right counselor.  Perhaps you can find one that has actually experienced the same thing.  When a smoker is trying to quit smoking, counseling on how to quit from someone that has never been adicted to nicotine or knows the inner struggle is a waste of time, they don't truly know what they are talking about, they are going by hearsay.  Same with counseling, if they have never experienced the problem, how can they truly know what the inner struggle is.  I pray that you do find understanding and assistance, and it is obvious that you are understanding a part of the problem, but it is up to the individual to struggle free from the fog.

May you both find that peace and serenity again,
MangoMom
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