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seeker345


Age: 63
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Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Hi Ravenfield,
Your question, though simply stated, is quite profound and shows a caring attitude and what I perceive is a genuine concern on your part for the world condition and the widespread feelings of 'hopelessness' that it can be changed, the individuals 'helplessness' to be able to affect it in any meaningful way and the damage, unintentional or otherwise, caused by some of those who attempt to try.  For 'world', substitute family, friends, country or whatever level is the real driver for your question.

For what it is worth, here are a number of my thoughts on this, which will hopefully provoke further discussion and maybe there will be something that you can take from it.  These thoughts are given in love and do not necessarily all reflect my own personal views.

1.  Maybe we are not intended to change the world by direct action.  Maybe this is just a place we come to to work on some aspect of our own being in this particular lifetime to prepare our own self for the next stage of our personal spiritual evolution  ...and maybe by doing that, we are creating an effect which will contribute in a small (or large) way to change those we come in contact with.  

2.  The Good and Bad duality is a myth at all levels.  Hence to change perceived 'badness' to perceived 'goodness' is an impossibility.  This is the reason why misguided action to force individuals/groups/nations to change for the better can be so damaging.

3.  If enough people care enough to change themselves, even in some small way, then the cumulative effect on the people around them has to produce a flow-on effect which, IF MAINTAINED, will eventually result in a global movement, the net direction of which will be determined by the type of change in the affected individuals, whether toward a higher state or a lower state.  Simply put...  ya just gotta keep trying.

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Bernie
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Purple Spirit


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Ravenfield, your question is an excellent one!
I believe there is very little true evil in this world.  Most of those individuals we percieve as evil, I believe are ill-intended.  Although ill-intention can definitely be destructive, I believe the ill-intended individuals have some good in them.  Good can be touched, evil can not.
Once we realize our similarities connect us and our differences bind us, tolerance comes naturally.
Zoddn Drak


Age: 18
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Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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Location: NE Florida
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Hello, I personally believe that humans have an infinite capacity for both good and evil, but that doesn't make someone good, evil, or other wise. Actions and decisions are what change the world, as such they should be labeled good/evil. If enough people decided to make good decisions the world would be a better place. Faith, Hope, and Love are the three best human emotions, the saddest thing in the world is that some people forget about one or more of these emotions. That, I believe is what causes people to make evil decisions.

Love with out Hope and Faith is Jealousy.
Faith without Love and Hope is Fervor.
Hope without Love and Faith is Pointless.

I hope that helped, that's just what I think.

Zoddn
spiritalk


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1.  Maybe we are not intended to change the world by direct action.  Maybe this is just a place we come to to work on some aspect of our own being in this particular lifetime to prepare our own self for the next stage of our personal spiritual evolution  ...and maybe by doing that, we are creating an effect which will contribute in a small (or large) way to change those we come in contact with.  

2.  The Good and Bad duality is a myth at all levels.  Hence to change perceived 'badness' to perceived 'goodness' is an impossibility.  This is the reason why misguided action to force individuals/groups/nations to change for the better can be so damaging.

3.  If enough people care enough to change themselves, even in some small way, then the cumulative effect on the people around them has to produce a flow-on effect which, IF MAINTAINED, will eventually result in a global movement, the net direction of which will be determined by the type of change in the affected individuals, whether toward a higher state or a lower state.  Simply put...  ya just gotta keep trying.  Posted by Seeker


1.  While this life is about our personal lessons - is there some way that our experience can change the whole?  Even putting out good thoughts to change can make change - even if it is one person at a time.  

2.  Could it be seen as good or bad as opposite sides of the same coin?   We toss it to land where we are at in our understanding of our world?

3.  Being a mirror for others to see themselves helps to outline how we can all change for the better.  Spirituality is the key - materialism will tear it all down.
Purple Spirit


Age: 35
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Zoddn Drak and spiritalk,
Have either of you watched the movie "The Secret"?
Much of what each of you have shared coincides with this move.  I do not mean to sound stand-offish or short.  This is a subject I am passionate about, as I have just finished writing a novel on the subject.
I love this site!  There are so many different views, which makes for great discussion and insight.
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