Dear friends Ben and Sahil,
I surprised to receive such critical comments on my blog from two different places. I do hope such serious comments will flow from other readers.
Because astrologer as well as individual are either not prepared to hear anything against the wrong concept of astrology as they have full faith over astrology because it was created with the "Divya-drishti" of our ancient seers (as Sahil told) or they have their fixed mindset that astrology is a science, which has been infused in their mind through almost all astrological books. Unfortunately, astrologers who are at least well versed with the subject are worried due to their prestige (which may reduce if they admit otherwise) or it will finish their business. I will like to share my experience faced by me when I contacted a well reputed publisher (astrology) of Delhi. Though he was kind enough to provide at least 2-3 hours and he has to cancel all other important appointments for understanding the research and concept highlighted in my book of astrology (“Jyotish Kitna Sahi Kitna Galat” in Hindi). After that he unconditionally admitted that undoubtedly my book has revolutionary findings but if he will go ahead to publish my book then all his other publications will be scrapped and he has to suffer lot of loss. In the same way astrologers can only try to avoid my research due to their business interest. But how long ? Because future belongs to science and after realising the truth only orthodox will follow the old concept, whereas intelligent individual always has an open mind. Which I can realise through readers of my book. My English book “Astrology a science or myth” was immediately grabbed by another reputed publisher and this book may be in the book stall in next month, and this book will be exported by the publisher hence perhaps it may be available in your city.
I fully appreciate (comment of Ben) and also of the opinion that “If astrology truely works it must obey the physical laws of the universe. If it obeys physical laws, there must be a way to test any "Astrology Effect". You are quite right in your statement and those astrologers who merely believe that astrology is a science must ponder over it (ofcourse if they have some scientific concept). Merely stating and misguiding general public by saying that it is a science will not work in future.
You are also right that there may be wide variety of collection of events (not research) to prove or disprove astrological principles in view of happening, and have found both favor and fault with both of them. But you will agree that neither scientist nor astrologers have ever come with the analysis of astrological principles itself and their arguments are only within the preview of events. Whenever any event took place according to any forecast only then concerned party or astrologer try to highlight that astrology is correct, though prediction of every astrologer will never be same. Though contrary to this scientist may say that why so-and-so incidents were not forecasted or why so-and-so forecasts were not correct. It is a matter of thinking as to why incidents of 9/11 or London bombing …….etc. etc. were not forecasted with the help of horoscopes of effected persons.
Sahil asked “but just tell us how u researched and went about finding the answers to the gr8 puzzles like friends-enemies, exaltted-debilited and the other things you've mentioned above.”
I am also studying / practising astrology since last 25 years and also developed many astrological software my-self. During the process of logical analysis of horoscopes when I came across many a time that same events are not taking place in same particular planetary combination. In this situation when all astrologers try to cover up their mistakes and pointed out some other principals which may lead to that incident, I modify my software in such a way so as to it may analyse all relevant principles whatsoever and come out with perfect forecast. Because in the initial days, like others, I was also attracted towards this subject only due to the reason that future events may be forecasted as was claimed by astrologers. But despite all my sincere efforts to get 100% correct forecast I was not able to get it and really it was a great concern for me as I was not satisfied with 60% or 80% so called correct forecast. Because I always thought that if 60%-80% forecast may be correct then why not 100%. In this dilemma situation, one fine morning I thought as to how our sages could formulate all these astrological principles that Mars is lord of Aries/Scorpio…… and so on, Sun has friendship with Mars and enmity with Saturn…… and so on, Sun has full aspect on 7th house whereas its friend and enemy planets have full aspect on different three houses…. and so on, Sun is exalted at 10 deg. of Aries sign and so on….., events are taking place according to Vinshottary system……and so on etc….(Western astrology was also developed only on the basis of Vedic astrology hence basic ingredients are the same), with a final question that if our sages have so called “Divya Drasti” then why they were not able to detect that our Earth is not stationery and were having misconcept that it is resting on some thing (it may be different according to different belief prevailing in the world), that there are some more planets like Uranus, Neptune, Pluto ……, that Earth is rotating around the Sun and so on….and human civilisation has to wait till Galileo confirm the concept of Solar system originated by Copernicus. With this very simple query it was clear to me that our sages do not have any so called “Divya Drasti”. But because such study was limited to specified section of the society hence it was claimed and believed that our sages have “Divya Drasti”. No doubt they have studied celestial position of planets for many generations like scientists who are studying astronomy, that’s why they were able to co-relate weather with the position of planets and could be able to detect solar, lunar eclipse etc. But in those days of clear sky in night and when they have no modern equipments etc., only sky watching was the main tool. Thus it is clear that mystry of formulation of all astrological principles is behind the night vision of sky. Hence I also decided to design a software of “Planetorium” with the help of all modern scientific information. Thereafter I analysed the celestial position of various planets in last 5000 years. When this situation was mixed with the then information about the Universe, which was available to our sages through scriptures, only then I was able to decode all astrological principles. To my surprise, I find that no doubt all astrological principals were formulated very logically on the basis of the then knowledge and concept about the Universe, social status of habitat. In those days it was concept of the Universe that Earth is stationery and Sun (which was supposed to living being like other planets because only living being can move) is above the Earth at the height of one lakh Yojan (one Yojan = 14.4 km) i.e. 14.4 lakh km and there after Moon is situated at an height of next one lakh Yojan, whereas all constellations are above the Moon at a next height of 4 Yojan i.e. 58 km above the Moon. Thereafter other planets are situated….. This concept prevailed till 1543 AD when Copernicus came with the concept of Solar system. Only after next 200 years scientist followed the clue despite opposition from many quarters (no need to mention). Still in India we may find many individuals who are still living in those days and they are not prepared to believe that Earth is rotating around the Sun or Moon is nearer then Sun or Constellations are situated in other galaxies etc……. You can realise that what a funny situation is there. On one hand effect of Uranus Neptune, Pluto was not included in the astrology on the pretext (as per astrologers) that they are far away from the Earth hence there was no effect of these planets. But on the other hand effect of constellations have been included in the astrology, whereas now we knows that constellation are not present even in our galaxy having a diameter of one lakh light year. Thus all astrological principles were formulated around that primitive concept. I explained in my book in detail as to what simple procedure was adopted to formulate all astrological principles and you will find complete answer to all questions raised in previous blog. But now in 21st century when we are well aware with the solar system and many more astronomical information then is it not required that we must also change these age old astrological principles in view of latest development? One complete section of the book was devoted to this aspect as to how we may scientifically work out the impact of a planet, ofcourse following the physical laws of Universe laid down in various branches of Physics. But where western astrologers are not aware with the Indian concept (though they are following same system with some unscientific modification), here in India it has taken a shape of business with the help of media and except few say 10% like moderator of this wavesite Ms Swetha, are not prepare to listen or read such research because not only it will harm their business interest but also it requires application of mind, which is unfortunately engaged in TV serial etc. or in exploiting general public with the help of so called forecast, which appears to be correct due to psychological effect and in primitive time our sages were not aware with psychology, which was discovered by Sigmund Freud by the end of 19th century, and our sages / astrologers were unknowingly applying and using psychology without it’s knowledge in the name of astrology.
I really appreciate the admission of Sahil “honestly speaking it will be really difficult to change ones style of studying a chart especially when its working for you,…” and want to say that any forecast which is socalled working for you is only a psychological effect and if Vinsottary dasha was so perfect then there was no need to develop other many dasha or Astak varg or KP system etc. These subsequent principles were only developed because not a single principle was perfect. Only we humanbeings are capable to solve the mysteries of the Universe and it is endless journey in which we have to update our knowledge instead of harping same old song.
It is such a vast field that it is not possible to explain every thing in detail. My English book has more then 450 pages comprising of mainly original research. However, I tried to highlight some points. Rest in next blog. If you want to know some specific point or about my book then you may write me on my email.
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