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Why one should ask some worldly things?
dattaswami


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Why one should ask some worldly things?

You are doing worship and service to God. However, you are asking some worldly desires. For all this, you are forgetting that God Himself is the highest fruit. You can get infinite happiness even by singing a song on Him. Then how much bliss you get from serving Him? Then you are getting the infinite bliss directly from the worship and service of God. Why should you ask some worldly benefit which does not give even a trace of happiness and instead gives misery only?

You are given a pot with divine nectar. You are selling it in a hotel for a cup of sugarless coffee. Therefore the devotees, who have tasted the bliss from His knowledge and from the devotion to Him, never ask for any other fruit. After all, the aim of the boon is only to get happiness. When you are deriving it in infinite quantity directly from God, why should you sell God for getting misery? The rich people who are blessed by God for their prayers are not at all happy.

They are running to the spiritual people for getting just a drop of the divine nectar.A real spiritual devotee will refuse to sell even a drop of divine nectar to these rich people because if he does so, he will become rich and will have the same fate. If you see Goddess Lakshmi who is pressing the feet of the Lord with Her both hands is gaining infinite bliss from the service of the Lord. The Lord has given infinite wealth to Her. She knows that the wealth gives only misery. Therefore she never feels that she is the possessor of that wealth.

She feels that she is the constant slave of the Lord. With just Her left hand, She is showering the inert gold coins, which give lot of misery only to the people who are craving for the wealth. While praying Goddess Lakshmi, we do not even understand Her nature and philosophy.

Parvati is very beautiful. She was serving Lord Shiva with all good qualities like obedience etc. Still Lord Shiva was not attracted to Her even though the stupid cupid tried for it. The Lord turned him into ash and disappeared. The external beauty (form of matter) and good qualities (forms of awareness) are considered as unreal only by the Lord.

However, when Parvati developed immense love through penance, the Lord tested whether such devotion was still attached to the external form and qualities. He came in disguise and discouraged Parvati about the frightening external form and the bad qualities about Shiva. But when the love of Parvati was proved to be above the external form and qualities, the Lord gave half of His body to Her. Later on He became even a slave of Her, keeping Himself under Her feet as you can see the dance of Kaali over Shiva.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Well I have never respected materiallistic ppl in my life. I am more interested in helping as many ppl without expecting anything in return.

I have tremendoes respect for all the different kinda professional & amatuer readers & mods & the 2 admins who are doing all this just to help ppl, & not one of them is here to earn money. That is something which I am proud of, & like a lot about this place & ppl here.
dattaswami


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Vishwas wrote:
Well I have never respected materiallistic ppl in my life. I am more interested in helping as many ppl without expecting anything in return.

I have tremendoes respect for all the different kinda professional & amatuer readers & mods & the 2 admins who are doing all this just to help ppl, & not one of them is here to earn money. That is something which I am proud of, & like a lot about this place & ppl here.


Vishwas;

People often say that Service to man is Service to God.  This is a very dangerous statement if it is not properly understood.  Service does not mean simply giving food, clothes, medicines etc., to suffering poor and needy people.  That poor person is suffering due to the punishment given by God due to his bad deeds.  You have not seen his past deeds but you are showing sympathy on him at present.  Your help is only temporary.  Make him a devotee by imparting knowledge.  Then the Lord will help him and that help is permanent.  So the word “service” should not be limited to donating food etc., In such case after receiving your help he may do sins which you have to share.

So convert him into a devotee by donating knowledge so that he becomes a devotee, to get personal help from the Lord and also helps others.  Since this is the work of the God, such service of yours’ becomes God’s service.  Donate knowledge and devotion, even for the wealthy people.  Poor did not mean lack of money only.  Poor means lack of knowledge and devotion also. Actually the original sense of this statement is different.  When the Lord comes in the human form, he appears as a man.  You have to detect him by his inherent quality that is blissful knowledge.

When you serve such a man your service becomes God’s service because that man is God.  When the God is born as a man called as Krishna, some people think that Krishna is a man and some others think that Krishna is a God.  So, there is a controversy.  God pervaded that man as the current pervades the metallic wire.  So both God and man co-exist.  Sankaracharya discussed that particular context only and concluded that though two are present, both become one and the same only.  Though wire and current are present, the wire is the current because the wire gives a shock wherever it is touched.  Similarly, when God pervades the human body, that human body is the God.  So, touching Krishna is touching God.  But people extrapolated this concept to every man and said, “Every man is God”.

 The disciples of Sankaracharya also thought like this.  When Sankara swallowed the molten lead and asked his disciples to swallow the same disciples realized Sankara proved that he alone is God and not his disciples.  If every man is already God what is the use of all this ‘Sadhana’?  Who is to get salvation?  If you are already God, do you mean that God gets salvation?  If there is no salvation, why all this sadhana, (effort)?  Why Prahlada did not accept his father as God?  Narasimha killed Hiranya Kashipu.  Both of them are Gods.  Then God killed God, which means God committed suicide!  


At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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"People often say that Service to man is Service to God.  This is a very dangerous statement if it is not properly understood. "

Why, arent we all a creation of God?

When you serve such a man your service becomes God’s service because that man is God.

What thought is that, do you think that God will only show himself in man?  Why not in an Ape..Pig..Chicken...they are all his creation and many was created before man....Why should he show himself in a Man and not in a Woman...Why should he the creater of all allow a "little sect" to be the ultimate carrier for the truth. Why ?
We are the almost last species that up to now are created on earth, and we have just lived for a minute seen in the earths development and we have destroyed more then all spieces before us, what make us so good that the creator find us suitable to display his image?? Why ?
dattaswami


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Rhutobello wrote:
"People often say that Service to man is Service to God.  This is a very dangerous statement if it is not properly understood. "

Why, arent we all a creation of God?

When you serve such a man your service becomes God’s service because that man is God.

What thought is that, do you think that God will only show himself in man?  Why not in an Ape..Pig..Chicken...they are all his creation and many was created before man....Why should he show himself in a Man and not in a Woman...Why should he the creater of all allow a "little sect" to be the ultimate carrier for the truth. Why ?
We are the almost last species that up to now are created on earth, and we have just lived for a minute seen in the earths development and we have destroyed more then all spieces before us, what make us so good that the creator find us suitable to display his image?? Why ?


Rhutobello;


God is unimaginable, uncomprehendable and beyond logic. The creation is the imagination of the Lord. 1%(qualitatively) of His imagination was converted into 'pure awareness' and does not contain God and 100% of this pureawarness has become the universe. Thus God does not exist in the creation. The creator is above creation and is unaffected by it.

The aim of the creation was the entertainment of Lord. God enters the creation through the finest item of the creation, i.e. human being. He enters the human body for giving His presence to the world. By doing so, He is not modified into that human body or soul. He is then known as 'Human Incarnation". He gives the facility of touch, talk and seeing to His dearest devotees who really wished to serve Him. Only His devotees identify Him rest all will mock Him seeing His human body.

The identification mark of Lord in Human form is the 'True Divine Knowledge', which removes our ignorance without any trace. He also does miracles whenever there is an urgency, and not for 'crowd pulling' or 'show'. He Himself is the founder of the rules of nature. By doing miracles He is violating His own rules, it is a violation of His own administration, thus He performs miracles whenever there is a great necessity. He should be identified by His divine knowledge.

God comes in every human generation in human form for the upliftment of Souls.


Thus God doesnot exists in creation means that, God is not in universe, but He is in human incarnation to give His presence to us through human body, by this one can approach Him, talk to Him, co-live with Him and clarify all the doubts.
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