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Re: God is Spirit in all life
dattaswami


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spiritalk wrote:
When God is human, he loses his status of eternal, central source of all light and love, for the sake of a human body.  What a waste of time!  All lessons we learn as human beings are to grow to that source and yet, we want to accept a human God?  No thanks!


           The total essence of your spiritual effort is that whether the Lord can replace your wife, children and money. There three bonds are strongest called as Eshanas. The day when all these three disappear and only God exists in these three places, your spiritual effort is over. But the God must be the human incarnation and not the statue of temple or formless aspect of God. Some can replace these entire three by God but such God is either a statue of a temple or the formless aspect of God or the celestial energetic body. Of course, they have realised the value of God completely. They should be appreciated. They have studied the course by regularly attending the classes and finally appeared in the examination but they failed in the examination. They have realised the value of God but they have not conquered their egoism and jealousy towards co-human beings.

The sages have sacrificed every thing and every body for God but could not recognise the human incarnation. They sacrificed all the Eshanas for God but their God was the energetic form like Vishnu, Siva etc.  When they were born as Gopikas and left every thing and every body for the sake of human incarnation, then only their spiritual effort was completed and got the complete grace of God. The whole complication lies in the recognition the human incarnation only and the Brahma Jnanam or Brahma Vidya is most difficult only due to this concept.

Veda does not mention much about the human incarnation because Veda was told by God in an energetic body called as Brahma Deva. The Veda was told by Brahma Deva to angles who are again the souls existing in the energetic bodies. Therefore, in Veda the incarnation of God in energetic body like Brahma, Vishnu and Siva is only elaborated. The preacher and the receiver are in the same medium called energetic form. Therefore, the preacher explained about the energetic incarnations only, which are congenial to the medium of energetic forms. But the epics like Ramayana, Bharata, Bhagavatam written by Valmiki and Vyasaya were human beings. Rama and Krishna were the human incarnations. The human beings require only such human incarnations, which are convenient to the medium of human form. Krishna is the God in human form and preached Gita for human beings. The sages neglected such epics and gave importance to Veda only and worshiped the energetic forms. The main reason is their egoism and jealousy towards the co-human beings.

There is no difference between the human incarnation and energetic incarnation. God is common in both. In human incarnation the medium is made of five elements where as in energetic incarnation the medium is made of one element only which is called as fire or energy. If the human body contains a soul, it is human being and if the same human body contains God it is human incarnation. Similarly, if energetic body contains a soul it is angle and if the same energetic body contains God, it is energetic incarnation. Vishnu is energetic incarnation and Indra is an angle. Krishna is human incarnation and other people were human beings. An angle is greater than human being but not greater than human incarnation. A peon in silk shirt is greater than a villager in the cotton shirt, but he is not greater than the officer in the cotton shirt. Indra is greater than any human being but not greater than Lord Krishna. The villagers in cotton shirts are unable to recognise officer in the cotton shirt, who came to mix with them closely. They treat the peon in silk shirt as the officer. The villagers of Brundavanam were prepared to worship Indra and could not recognise Krishna who is the officer of even Indra. Even Indra could not recognise his own officer present in the cotton shirt!
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spiritalk


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To leave our relationships is to dismiss our highest lessons of spirituality.  We do not need to replace our family, friends, loved ones for God; we need to understand how God flows through these relationships and enhances our attachments.

While there are sacrifices of material nature to God, there is no spiritual sacrifice needed to understand God in our existence.
A devotee can become God, but...
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