Can anyone shed some light on this. I always thought 2012 was to be an earth shift that would get rid of cellphone towers, radio towers, banks, churches, etc. But what's supposed to happen before 2012 to prepare people for it? I get 'scrambled' messages about this and was wondering if anyone could put it together for me. Some say that "systems" (chruch, education, government) will crash before 2012, some say it will happen after. What's the Deal???

Also, what will earth be like 5, 10, 15, 20 whatever, years After the shift? Will there be systems still in place? Some say that 2012 we need a certain number of people to be "enlightened" in order for ____ to happen. Others say that 2012 is the beginning....that "enlightenment" won't happen until after the shift/2012....

can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks!

If you can, state your source, if it's a website, state resources when you can. Thanks

Hi

What I saw on one of the educational channels the other day was, the ice shelf in greenland was in danger of falling off into the ocean. If there was a gravtional effect to cause this to happen all at once, on or around 2012 this would remove all of the things you speak of, this would probably wipe out most of north americas east coast annd west coast of europe. Also there is now a corralation between the moon and earth quakes, this would have to be gravity related, as the moon pulls on the oceans, it must also pull on the molten mass beneath the earth surface. If there were to be a added gravity effect to take place, it would probably have the effect as said in revelations to shake the earth by it's corner stones.This considered, would wipe out all of the things you speak of.
At some point if this is to come about there would be a mass exodus, what's strange is that in the big wave that hit in Indonesia, no animals were killed they knew to hit the high ground.

I would also like to learn more about this.

i to seen a program on the history channel about mayan prophecy  this date in time based on cosmic cycles { a  26,000 year one} it spoke in reference  to the milky way the suns movement towards the center  and a major movement of the earth at it axis


2012

Prophecies throughout time have named this as the end time, movement to a golden age, gold referencing the alchemy of time and consciousness. To examine the accelerating physical Earth changes and consciousness of humanity, recognizing and healing its issues, is to understand this evolutionary process and what is occurring. There are many factors linked to December 21, 2012 back into light, from which the human biogenetic came. The best barometer for you, is your own intuition, which will allow you to sense great changes. Dreams and meditation will also guide this part of your journey.

On December 21, 2012, for the first time in approximately 26,000 years, the Sun will rise to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way (eye, heart, center) and the ecliptic plane. The sun aligning with the galactic center, is referred to as the Cosmic Cross. According to the ancient Maya, this date will mark the end of one world as we know it and the beginning of another. It is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a Tree remembered as sacred in all the world's spiritual traditions. Emerging from this tree, or star alignment, comes a serpent (DNA) rope with an enlightened being named Nine (9, Closure) Winds (Wormholes, Spirals, StarGates, SG, Sacred Geometry). Nine Winds is Quetzalcoatl riding upon a blessed substance the Mayans called 'itz' (it's Z).



The Milky Way Galaxy is the inspiration for the symbol of the Ouroboros. Mythology refers to a serpent of light residing in the heavens. The Milky Way is this serpent, and viewed at galactic central point near Sagittarius, this serpent eats its own tail. The Milky Way galaxy keeps a great time cycle that ends in catastrophic change. The sign of the Suntelia Aion is the sun rising out of the mouth of the ouroboros, which will occur on the winter solstice December 21, 2012 at 11:11 UT. Ancient historians, including Plato referred to a cycle of catastrophe at the End of the Age. The AION was symbolized by the Ouroboros.


The Mayan Calendar
The Mayan Calendar was allegedly created by Quetzalcoatl.

     December 21, 2012: The Long Count calendar used by the Maya civilization of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BCE August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283). The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is only a single known but incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Stela 6) which records this date. However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next. A number of modern synchretisms and "New Age" theories co-opt this period-ending into their own speculations on the meaning of this "ending" of a Maya calendar cycle. The December solstice for 2012 also occurs on this day; to the majority of Mayanist scholars this is seen as no more than a coincidence, and the Maya did not deliberately devise their calendar so that this period would end on a solstice point.

Cherokee Calendar
Prophecy: 2004 and 2012 bring an alignment both on the Cherokee Calendar and in the heavens of the Rattlesnake Constellation. It is the time of the doublehead serpent stick. It is the time of the Red of Orion and Jupiter against White Blue of Pleiades and Venus. It is the time of the Uku's choosing. It is the time of the Beloved Woman and Mysteries of Time Untime. It is the Time Untime of the Thunderbolt and the spirits of Lightning Mountains. Rattlesnake or serpent represents the human DNA biogenetic experiment.



Solar Cycle 24 began on January 4, 2008 and peaks in 2012.



A sunspot is a region on the Sun's surface (photosphere) that is marked by intense magnetic activity, which inhibits convection, forming areas of reduced surface temperature. They can be visible from Earth without the aid of a telescope. Although they are at temperatures of roughly 4,000–4,500 K, the contrast with the surrounding material at about 5,800 K leaves them clearly visible as dark spots, as the intensity of a heated black body (closely approximated by the photosphere) is a function of T (temperature) to the fourth power. If a sunspot were isolated from the surrounding photosphere it would be brighter than an electric arc.

A minimum in the eleven-year sunspot cycle happened during 2008.[1] While the reverse polarity sunspot[2] observed on 4 January 2008 may represent the start of Cycle 24, no additional sunspots have yet been seen in this cycle. The definition of a new sunspot cycle is when the average number of sunspots of the new cycle's magnetic polarity outnumbers that of the old cycle's polarity[citation needed]. Forecasts in 2006 predicted Cycle 24 to start between late 2007 and early 2008, but new estimates suggest a delay until 2009.

Sunspots, being the manifestation of intense magnetic activity, host secondary phenomena such as coronal loops and reconnection events. Most solar flares and coronal mass ejections originate in magnetically active regions around visible sunspot groupings. Similar phenomena indirectly observed on stars are commonly called starspots and both light and dark spots have been measured.[3]

Hi

If you really want to get some info on this go to ( www.thecrowhouse.com ) , Azhar had this on one of his post, if you are wuss or frighten easily don't go there. Told some friends about this now their scared. Is said some 380,000 sites on this subject now, thecrow comes out of the Australia down under, their already in trouble. But I checked the concentration camps, at least 200 across America, a big one in Alaska, but they say it's just for the illegal aliens. There is a lagre amout of those illegal Mexicans up there, in Alaska.

Thank you! You have answered some of my questions.