I do like to know what is going on, though for the most part I view the news we read or hear on tv / radio to be bad fiction.

Considering that so much of those who have psychic views are consdiered to be scams I was surprised to find this listed under Political News,

However I am curious to the feelings anyone else may have regarding this particular news story / prediction

Psychics: Stars not aligned for Palin
Daniel Libit

Well-known psychic Elizabeth Joyce has doubts there will be an election this November. Her instincts tell her that, come next week, there might be “rioting in the streets and martial law” and that President Bush will henceforth carry out his term indefinitely.

the rest of article is about the VP debate located at http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081002/pl_politico/14219

Dessa,

Well ya know the only thing that could cause this mass hysteria don't you?  Besides being attacked on our soil.  Could it be the crashing of the market?  Times are different. People are different.  It isn't like it was back then.  And the bailout will not work. Like placing a bandaid on something that needs some serious surgery.  I think the public knows that, so you are seeing the flex more and more in the stock market.  I don't forsee this bounce back to be long lived.  

But my loves, this is good.  Sometimes there needs to be that peak in the temperature.  Fevers can be scary but it is a sign that our body is fighting a virus or infection.  It will will level off in the end.  And then there are times when interferance will make the symptoms linger longer than if nature was to run it's course.  

I'm not looking forward to it, but it is going to happen sooner or later. All the signs were there.  But this doesn't mean that we are doomed. State of mind, keeping humor when faced with such daunting tasks such as this.  It will be a test of the human spirit no doubt.  This  did not happen overnight so the fix will not be immediate.  We may have to do without for a while.  And if martial law is implimented I do fear for my safety.   I don't know if he is going to issue this martial law, but if there are many riots this may give them ground to do so.  So let's not give them a reason. ;)

Safe Journey

Actually considering the flow of things lately what you are saying makes sense, as for the bail out well I don't see how it can be effective considering the way things have bone, and I can see where people would use that as a rallying point considering what happened in the 80's when Bush sr. let the tax payers bail out his sons Neil and Jeb, and so the taxpayers the people that can't afford it had to pay meanwhile one Jeb isn't held responsible for anything, and Neil pays a 5000 fine on millions of money he has gotten.

So yeah, especially since it is yet another Bush in office now, I can see where people might react strongly, I honestly hadn't thought of this side of things I didn't see how it could happen I just didn't feel like thre was an energy around for this kind of thing to happen, but when it comes to what people view as their source of survival the dollar then it well yeah what you say makes sense.

And the world is a very different place than it was in the past, people are not as programed to fit into the the pigeon holes that they were before.  

On the other hand,  the whole witch hunt mentality that I thought couldn't happen anymore did happen when for a time anyone with a Middle East heritage was targeted, the reports of people being denied rights, based on the whole homeland security thing.

So it seems some haven't learned much from the days of the witch hunts, mccarthyism,

I just like to think that there are enough people who think, who care and who are willing to make a difference.

While I do not dismiss this woman's prediction, I didn't see anything that would cause the rioting necessary to warrent martial law, now you named an issue that could cause it.

Dessa,

Just wanted to add that this is again all probabilities.  The signs are there, the placements are in favor of this happening.  But we still have the choice.  The goverment might still pull this off and figure out a way to have a smoother transistion while we level off and the inflation gets under control.  We the people of this nation might still spend and contribute to our economy, just a little bit wiser.  Like they said the worst thing to do right now is to stop spending.  Spending gives the employees hours. First when it is slow they usually trim the work hours back, depending on where you work. Then if that doesn't work, they lay off. If this continues, they will shut down that bussiness location.

For my class who thinks it will not effect you.  Now where are the middle class to go if they loose their jobs?  They will be flooding our job market.  Retail, lower management, food service, factory, etc.  Even if it is temp they need income. Already I have felt this effect. Due to many middle class recieving part time jobs to help pay their bills. This flood of eligible applicants gives favor to those higher up looking to line their pockets with profit.  They can lower our wages to trim labor cost.  They can set it to where they keep all employees at part time so they do not have to offer any benefits.  Another practice that has been phased in so the business saves...why don't people notice that?  They can also make it to where you have to work around their schedule.  Be available 24/7. This makes it difficult if you cannot afford childcare so you cannot work opposites shifts with your spouse.  And the way our economy is, both parents are having to work outside the home.  This is causing less time as a family, divorce rates are rising.  Once loving parnters, fight because of stress.  Even if you do not have children, if you are needing two incomes to survive, the 24/7 ever changing schedules that most people in my line of work deal with prevent us from having another job.  If you cannot work it, tough, there are so many people without work. We are replaceable.  And they know that.

Now when there is a history of low unemployment, the bussiness will compete and offer more money to their employees.  What ever happened to a fair days wage for a fair days work?

So yes the American public is on edge.  All the signs are there that these riots could happen.  I am not sure that this martial law will be implemented next week like suggested.  This doesn't mean that it will not take place in the future if they feel the need to do so.  I take respected Astrologers messages to heart.  Not sure on her reputation. But this science has been around for a very long time.  Ancient practice.  For it to survive all these centuries means that there is truth within it.  Now the unexperienced may interpret it wrong.  And then cause many to think of it as lacking any worth. Why would Kings, Presidents, and other leaders consult them?  At one time it was a respected profession. Now this too has been only to make money for some.  I may not fully understand the Astrology aspect. But I am not blind to what I am seeing...so when I talk about the governement and the life we live. I only offer affirmations for those who practice this art. There are those who can see this without the aid of Astrology, I just happen to be one of those who still use this form of divination to help inturpret my visions.  That is why I try to understand both Astrology and the gift of sight.

I still believe in Free Will. That we are given choices.  We can live in fear of Martial Law or we can do something about it.  Write to our leaders, write to our newspapers.  Be civil about it, and they will have no reason to lock us up.  I only fear that there will be panic and major uprising.  Then look out!  For now live and prepare the home for winter. It's going to be a cold one.


And the witch hunts also affected any Christian who didn't follow the Roman Catholic Church. Something else to think about.

LOL I am sure I am already on that list.  The Dr. that delivered my middle daughter was grilling me about my tatoo of a scarab.  Was this gang related?  Oh yes, we are now in gangs.  Ignorance!

Sorry about my long ranting. I'm just so in the mood to share my thoughts.  I am glad you shared yours too. Thank you for sharing this article with us. Would also love to hear other people's thoughts reguarding the prediction of Martial Law.

Safe Journey

Note: My appologies for my poor grammar and spelling.  Rather tired when I wrote this.

Crow, no need to be sorry for long post, the long post is how we learn different views and perspectives,

I am also a firm believer in Free Will, I also feel very strongly that even a handful of people sending out enough positive ...?energy, vibrations, thoughts, emotions... choose your own label, can make a difference.

I once read a book by Doug Boyd about a Native American Medicine Man, who if you read it from the author's perspective he seems to feel that Mad Bear [the medcine man] just through his gifts, talents, skills, thoughts? not sure, delayed an earthquake from happening in a certain area,

Perhaps he was able to send out the healing energy or communicated with Earth to do this, perhaps it was just amazing timing.

I just know that when people go into something expecting the worst that is usually what they find, when they expect the best well they can find that too,  granted we may not always find much, or things may not work out how we expect, but people can make a difference in a positive way, even under the most negative circumstances,


I suppose that is what I like about precognition, once the information of the possiblities are known, we can act in ways that will make sure they happen, or act in ways to prevent them from happening.

I just don't feel that things are written in stone, to many people, with to many choices and possiblities out there for this to or any other prediction to be assured.

For example, when I first read this particular one, I thought no I can't see a way that could happen, through shared thoughts from others, I saw how it could be a possiblity, that still doesn't make it absolute.

As for the situation in the work force I am well aware of it, I have at times worked 4 part time jobs, and still didn't have enough but fortunately I shared expenses with someone else.

I am in a situation now, where I need a car to get a job, but I need the job to get the car running, where due to laws in place that stipulate that insurance companies and not medical practitioners get to decide what is a medical need, I am faced with some issues medically that creat a great deal of conflict and can cause problems to my being able to work,

I am well aware of the whole two person income needed for survival, I have lived it my whole life, and lived in situations and raised at a time where the salary for women was drastically lower than it is for men and raised by a woman trying to support her children on her own,

I have seen what this means, how there seems to be no getting ahead and sometimes not even or barely staying afloat even if you are getting basics, of a roof, enough or just enough food [which it is amazing that to eat healthy is very expensive to eat not healthy isn't so cheap either but much more affordable than eating right] and just enough in clothing to cover yourself I am not talking designer cloths, but the basics. That alone is hard enough to afford for many people today.


Those who are in power who are responsible for setting the salary caps, the minimum wage, and the cost of living, should have to try to exist on minimum wage with NO outside money coming to them what so ever, Any one elected to office should have to spend at least six months this way, with no one gifting them no one outside their families helping, even no extra income from their families, this is not just for political leaders but those who are in positions of power with larger companies as well, need to understand what it is they are doing when cut into the survival of middle class, working class, working class poor, and yes the poor.

It is not going to happen, but it would be nice, so I do know what you are saying about businesses, I have seen it happen.

I had to laugh about the tattoo I have a friend who was not questioned on gang alligences, but does get some looks in regards to her tattoos.

As far as the witch hunts go, no doubt I would be one of those in damnation, since I tend to question those who dictate. Catholic school tried to break me of the habit of questioning, and accept "because I said so" from someone in postion of authority, as reason enough. LOL didn't work. One of my teachers I ran into a couple of times over the years lol she was a good nun, seems she was still praying for me.

It would be nice to see what other perspectives are out there on this prediction, and what kind of energy or vibration others might pick up from this, I just don't feel it coming true.