I love my life and this world.
But from what i've seen these changes come.
And indeed they come if you are willing to accept them or not.
You limit your understanding in denying even the possibility of something bigger and wiser then yourself.
Read the bible, look to the millions of believers world wide.
Do you believe yourself wiser then everyone?
where do you get your experiance? from a higher source then others?
Do not condemn the facts of another because you have not seen them yourself.
You may live in denial of the truth but dont push that same denail untoi us who have seen greater things.

All other dates of the end have been a fabrication by the media so that when this real date came noone would believe.
You have soaked in the lies of the media and deny the truth of god.
Believe that perhaps there are higher sources of information then that which is on TV and the Internet.

All phenominom can be explained through the truth of god.
Can media do that for you?

Those of us who see these things do not drink, or smoke, or devote ourselves to petty pleasures.
We seek to study and know the way of the lord so we may guide those who have been misguided to the light.

oh so now im a sinner because I prefer to not care about something that won't be good for me? ok so please end of the world come! come! I need you desperately so I can get enlighted, you will do me so much good! It won't, it will make people live on sadness, the truth is that the media, is that the world will end on 2012. And god! how can you trust on things like that without searching since you are the one who searches a lot, if you see the bible wasn't even written by jesus christ but by his group! no "sacred book" was written by the ones that come here to help us, krishnamurti never wrote a single book because he find it wrong but people still worked their way out to write things. The thing here is, you think you are not the media but we all are, I am a model, I work for the media, but this, doesn't mean I follow the media. i do know that there is chances of happening it, but it is wrong to care about it, caring about it, would be giving or energy/ transforming it on something bad wish will make it way bigger than it is. You limit your understanding in denying even the possibility of something bigger and wiser then yourself, I never said that, I just said that is not worth to care about it, im sorry if you do need an end on everything, just cause its bad it doesn't mean it will end, it doesn't mean it was better long time ago, 2000 before christ there was bishop who said that the end was close, so close right? Yeah! oh and now cause there are millions of people who belive on that I have to belive on that? where does your information come from is media, you clearly state that for you you need to get information from a high source or some paper other than just think for yourself. I've seen more than greater things, in fact its rare to find an older soul than mine, in this life I never seen one, when I was younger I started seen my past lifes, I know them all, I can see the people's past life, I do see a lot of good, and I know I've seen too much good things. And the so Nostradamus who talked about that date, is now he the media? BTW I don't watch TV more than a year now, only when people ask me to see it, media is not me, maybe you just say that because I added my picture and when you look at me you create some prejudism? Bad prejudism, cause I never drank, I never smoked or any other thing you said, actually I am vegetarian since I was borned, how about you do you still need meat or you passed that easy step?

We seek to study and know the way of the lord so we may guide those who have been misguided to the light. see there is the problem, you say im the owner of the truth, but you only see by your own eyes, right now you just said in a small way that you are so enlighted and incredible and will guide people with your lovely knowledge, crap!
If you seek to work against us, you seek to strengthen the lies of those who wish to decieve you.
I never said I work against you, us? is that a terrorist group you work it that is gonna destroy this world because they can't rather resist as the other human beings? Never said I strength there lies, I said it doesnt really matter if it will end or not, you simply have to live your own life and if it happens, it had to, if it didn't at least you didn't waste your life for that moment, ok?

We have said enough to each other and there was no need for my statement here.
I apoigise for degrading this thread into an argument and bickering, it defeats the purpose of us being here, which is to discuss these things openly, without fear that another will seek to devalue the others opinion.
Let us acknoledge our differing opinion on these matters and be more gracious to each other in the future.

I hope that thread is not going to degenerate into an argument?

I'd be a little upset if it does, so i am going to remind people that you are welcome to discuss but not criticise.  Debate is healthy and raises awareness but criticism is hurtful and i don't like people being hurt.

I hope you are all having a great day and i look forwards to more predictions.

Suzi XXXX

personally i believe the world won't end.whoever hear of this it's only upto them to believe or not and the consequences would be only due to themselves. most important of all you have to trust your inner sense and what it says to you.

the changes which are said to be going to occur in 2012 can be either positive or negative but their will be no end of world.the human race will only go through a phase of evolution and perhaps some see it as the end of a type of world.there is nothing wrong in hoping for the best to happen in the near future.beleive in positive you will experience likewise.believe in negative you will experience likewise.

peace and love to everyone,

lights of love,
dhav

ps according to the Big Changes(2012) first topic there is nothing like the end of the world.