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Rook
Age: 28 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:50 am |
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I am in a resort style hotel by the pool watching TV with a colleague from work. The TV show is a reality program about people with psychic gifts, where the one with the weakest gift is voted off.
I am on the show and hope that they don't show me in front of my work colleague, but they do. The image is a close up of my profile. I am half covered in shadow, and half illuminated by a golden light, not in a direct division but more like a camouflage, with the interplay of light and shadow dancing across my body.
My work colleague recognises me and asks if it is me. I nod acknowledgement and she walks away and won't come near me. I am asked to take my bags and leave the hotel.
I go to another hotel that is semi-rundown and old. There are a lot of people there but I overhear the owner saying they will have to shut down if 'this doesn't work'.
The have hired a psychic to get rid of some ghosts who are scarying everyone away. I walk with the psychic as they perform what I consider 'pretend magic'.
Suddenly I see two hooded figures duck out a back door. I go after them, and as I approach them their robes disappear. It is a mother and two children. They are the ghosts. I ask them to leave and they say they would, but they are worried about the violent father who is an upstairs room, they are worried about the safety of the people.
I ask the surname of the people and they tell me. I go to ask the owner which room the ghosts were in when they stayed here whilst alive and she tells me to check the ledger, as she is busy evacuating people.
As I am about to go back in a big sky-blue Frankenstien comes walking down the street. Every one is afraid of him but I call out "Frankie!" He was a friend of mine on the TV show. I invite him in to try to sort out the ghost situation.
The dream ends as we walk in the door.
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Inner Sanctum
Age: 29 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:19 am |
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I am on the show and hope that they don't show me in front of my work colleague, but they do. The image is a close up of my profile. I am half covered in shadow, and half illuminated by a golden light, not in a direct division but more like a camouflage, with the interplay of light and shadow dancing across my body.
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Maybe the reality show represents a feeling that you have to measure up to some standard? The camouflage has maybe the same symbolism is not wanting your face to be shown, maybe not wanting the co-worker to know about this aspect of you? Maybe you are psychic or maybe is symbolic of something else which are you insecure about?  In the latter part of the dream, are the hooded people dressed darkly? This could be tied in with the dark camouflage
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My work colleague recognises me and asks if it is me. I nod acknowledgement and she walks away and won't come near me. I am asked to take my bags and leave the hotel.
I go to another hotel that is semi-rundown and old. There are a lot of people there but I overhear the owner saying they will have to shut down if 'this doesn't work'.
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Maybe this is the same symbolism as the reality show? Feeling you have to make it work is like the feeling of having to measure up?
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The have hired a psychic to get rid of some ghosts who are scarying everyone away. I walk with the psychic as they perform what I consider 'pretend magic'.
Suddenly I see two hooded figures duck out a back door. I go after them, and as I approach them their robes disappear. It is a mother and two children. They are the ghosts. I ask them to leave and they say they would, but they are worried about the violent father who is an upstairs room, they are worried about the safety of the people.
I ask the surname of the people and they tell me. I go to ask the owner which room the ghosts were in when they stayed here whilst alive and she tells me to check the ledger, as she is busy evacuating people.
As I am about to go back in a big sky-blue Frankenstien comes walking down the street. Every one is afraid of him but I call out "Frankie!" He was a friend of mine on the TV show. I invite him in to try to sort out the ghost situation.
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I think this is all very positive, I think maybe that contrasting yourself with the pretend magic shows confidence. Also I think perhaps the violent father represents the same thing as the reality show, which is the idea that you have to compare yourself to others and are in competion  Maybe the owner evacuating people and checking the ledger is the dream's way of telling you to remove people ( and comparisons ) from the equation and just look at the facts? The blue Frankestein from the game show could be the realization that the game show is silly, that its silly to be in competition with the others, that there is nothing to fear?
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ElizVanZee
Age: 70 Zodiac: 
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Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:30 pm |
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The scene can suggest a situation that is a last resort, one in which you could be using a mental attitude not designed to be stayed with long term (in a resort style hotel) – one that may involve a recreational use of consciousness (by the pool) such as imagination or perhaps simply a pooling of spiritual knowledge. You appear to be using conscious imagination (watching TV) with the emotional support of an aspect of yourself represented by the female colleague, with the focus being upon the idea of psychic gifts or skills. What you are imagining is seemingly a reflection of real life (TV show is a reality program) in which those whose skills are very weak are not wanted. (where the one with the weakest gift is voted off.)
You may have gotten with the program – made yourself more aware in the psychic field and participated in a situation designed to give an appearance that impresses others (I am on the show) – but you are not impressing yourself. (colleague walks away and won't come near me) . Using a perspective coming from feelings that work with/for you, (the colleague) you tell yourself to leave off using this way of thinking. (I am asked to take my bags and leave the hotel)
The profile image can imply that you see the showing you make only for its rightness or wrongness. [What side of your face did you see?] The profile can also suggest trying to keep a low profile yet the close up can imply getting very up close and personal with those interested in your skills. The interplay of golden light and also shadow does not clearly reveal you as being completely enlightened by God (gold light) nor completely lacking in His enlightened thinking. The hint of brilliance and alternately, ignorance is preventing you from being a stand out. (like a camouflage)
Your own emotional disapproval of your involvement in a situation where your skills may be used for show or sets you up for an unfavourable evaluation results in your using a very poor a mental attitude (I go to another hotel that is semi-rundown and old). The large number of people in this run down hotel show that there is a great intensity of thought being applied to a poor or undesirable way of thinking. The only one who stands to lose if this poor mental attitude ceases to be is the owner, i.e. your ego. {Some people’s ego does not aggrandize but rather deflates the sense of self.}
The ghosts can represent the idea of being haunted by an idea from the past which has not been put to rest. The psychic can represent an aspect of yourself that may feel capable of using psychic skills but may lack effective skills to put to rest a scary idea from the past or simply one that may lack any physical reality. (hired a psychic to get rid of some ghosts who are scarying everyone - they perform what I consider 'pretend magic'. )
An idea that appears negative (2 figures) and does not reflect the best thinking (hooded) is using an opportunity to realize itself (out a back door) in a way that is not up front or legitimate. This is actually a belief you have that has been productive (a mother and two children). The mention of robes may suggest a belief associated with biblical thinking but this association seems to disappear. There is apparently logic for this belief, logic that reflects a higher level of intelligence (father – in an upstairs room) but not a reflection of God’s thinking. (violent father) This is a belief that has not been permanently put to rest. (They are the ghosts) Asking the surname implies identifying the father and thus the source of the logic responsible for a belief you have. From an emotional perspective (the female owner) you know where this information is recorded.( she tells me to check the ledger) The ledger, being a book of numbers as for bookkeeping, may be a reference to: Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name – suggesting that where some poor thinking is involved, Satan may be the source of a belief.
Frankenstein would suggest a monstrous, unnatural idea that appears to have spiritual approval. (a big sky-blue Frankenstein) When using this monstrous idea you are on a losing course of action (comes walking down the street) which may only be seen in future. There seems to be a significant aspect of yourself that would fear this monstrous idea. (Every one is afraid of him) By calling this unnatural idea by name, Frankie, it would suggest the idea is very important to you but may be one that has to be seen very frankly, honestly or truthfully. You may be seeing this idea as working in your favour. but it may only seem this way where you are programmed to give yourself a fanciful way of thinking. (He was a friend of mine on the TV show) You seem to expect this unnatural idea to help solve the problem of the belief that is haunting you. A Frankenstein monster is actually an expression meaning referring to something that cannot be controlled and that attacks or destroys the person who invented it.
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Rook
Age: 28 Zodiac: 
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Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:29 am |
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This is fantastic! Thank you so much for your input, both of you.
I can see parrallels between the psychic abilities and my hobby of dream interpretation which sit right with these interpretations.
Inner Sanctum - Thanks! I see a lot of insight in your post. I don't consciously try to compete with others such as yourselves in terms of interpretation, but I do feel humbled and recognise the skill others have with dreams, and take notice when I am off the track. That said I do sometimes hit the mark too which works with the symbol of being half in shadow and half in golden light.
Its also true that I hide this from others, particularly work colleagues, even though I do a lot of my interpretation at work while my PC is processing data. I don't feel ready for others to know about this aspect of my life. My partner and brother know of it, and they 'champion' my abilities, but I am well aware there are others far more insightful than me, and know that I am not always right, in fact am probably half right half the time. I don't feel like I am up to the praise just yet, and also am concerned about the reaction some people would have if they knew of this. I believe some would consider me odd and avoid me.
On the other hand I know that I have helped some people, and that people quite often give positive feedback. Some like my approach. I am learning a lot, still learning, probably always will be, and I feel I have come a long way in a short time.
Eliz - Thank you so much as well. This is very insightful and has helped me address this issue in my mind. Do you think that dream interpretation sits with the theme of 'recreational use of consciousness'? It certainly is a hobby, I only do it to exercise my intuition and abilities, and to help people where I can.
I can see the application of the profile image in all the different ways of interpretation. When I read a dream I am purely interested in accuracy, I don't look at it in shades of greys, only black and white, I am wrong or right, and don't consider the 'close'. I did see my face front on though, with the interplay of colour moving across it, though my eyes were mostly in the golden light -though I am not sure that this is significant. It didn't feel significant. The low profile makes sense in that I am trying to keep my profile low except on the forums where I have anominimity. I am certainly not full illuminated by God and will willingly admit that. I have a long way to go I believe.
What I am trying to address now is what that mode of thinking is that is 'poor'. Could it be my confidence in myself and my abilities? I act confidently in the dream, which is contrast to how I act in life. I would say I am not a confident person, but I am starting to consciously change this, mainly because I need to. My life is starting to demand it. Its a long running issue, and I am not sure what it was that made me lack confidence in myself in the beginning. I would also say that my ego does deflate my sense of self, although that has shifted a little when I realised that I am 'awesome'. That gave my a boost to my confidence, but that is faded a little - it was a long time ago now, and I have not had a similar boost to my growth until I started dream interpretation, but that too has faded somewhat...
And what is the belief that is haunting me? Something that is biblical in nature, but has faded with time. Something that involves poor thinking. This could in fact relate to my whole attitude to the bible. I have let my perspective of Christianity and the Bible be shattered by those who have tried to teach me about it. My attitude to Religion and all things Spiritual is poor. The fault that I had, and the feelings towards it I have are the fault not of the Bible itself, but of the people who tried to teach it to me. And then they meant no harm, they were merely trying to share their revelations with me. I picked up on their attempts to 'convert' me and was offended, and would not take what they said on faith, but sought Spiritual understanding. But my Spiritual understanding relies heavily on logical understanding, and not so much on the emotional aspects associated with the mother figure. So what could the belief be that has not been put to rest? That is a tougher question, but could relate to occult studies I guess. That all started way back with the Da Vinci code and went along a winding path to the occult / Rosicrucian. But that hasn't 'sat right' with my intuition, and I dont' pursue it strongly. Just dabble now and again.
I wonder if the Frankenstein character could be a reflection of Jung's process of Individuation. That is something I perceive that I will go through in the future. Something heavily associated with the 'psyche' and is all about misunderstood consciousness / unconsciousness. It is something that I expect to help solve that which 'haunts' me. So would this portrayal suggest that as such, a conscious pursuit of this will be dangerous unless approached in a frank honest truthful way? That sounds consistent with what I have read on it. That being the threat of becoming consumed by the shadow / anima / mana.
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ElizVanZee
Age: 70 Zodiac: 
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:12 pm |
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Hi Rook
First, thank you for the feedback. It is most useful. After reading your personal message asking me to look at your dreams, the first thought I had when seeing the idea of using a poor mental attitude was that it could relate to your thinking about your dream interpretation abilities. Seeing the testing of psychic abilities as referring to dream interpretation may also be indicating that some poor way of thinking applies to how you view dream work. Psychic abilities are usually considered natural gifts in which intuitive knowledge is relied upon. Intuition plays little part in an accurate dream interpretation. One’s knowledge of the proper meaning of symbols and how to apply this meaning is a very logical, learned process.
Your statement, ‘I am not sure what it was that made me lack confidence in myself in the beginning’, might be related to a belief picked up along the way – a belief that you could not possibly be correct or that your views were of no importance. Perhaps such a belief (seen as the ghosts) has not been put to rest. [Was the family quick to ridicule?]
The second hotel scene can reflect a change of subject away from interpretation and back to psychic/occult matters. The two hooded characters with the biblical association seen first can imply that in your mind you might be seeing as ‘bad guys’ some thoughts about Bible based religion which haunt or disturbs you. But on second view (when the robes disappear) the belief that does, or should perhaps haunt or disturb you is the opposite of one reflecting God’s thinking. (because of the violent father image) This would apply to occult issues. {because Scripture speaks against the occult}
The idea of individuation would seem to well fit the Frankenstein character since it is a body made up of many individuals. Psychology has come up with many ‘wonderful’ ideas, most of which I personally feel are worthless as a better understanding of dreams has shown me. All that is important is to identify the thoughts and feelings the Lord points out in dreams as being incorrect or unintelligent. The shadow, anima etc. are simply ideas which do not get anyone to the real problem. One clear dream can cure what a therapist spends years trying to solve. [I have studied psychology, by the way.]
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